Realistic Resolutions - WAS: Slytherins come back
horridporrid03
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Fri Jan 18 18:40:08 UTC 2008
No: HPFGUIDX 180746
> >>Magpie:
> > In the end the founder's story was repeated--Slytherin was always
> > a champion of Pureblood supremacy and bloodlines, even if he was
> > always also about ambition and cunning (so he's a racist with a
> > desire to promote his chosen group even in underhanded ways). He
> > was a founder--we don't know why.
> > <snip>
> > There's actually no call on Slytherin whatsoever to change--
> > they are what they are. So we're left with the question asked
> > here: why are they suffered to remain? To me it seems like the
> > answer to that question is found in the psychology of the WW and
> > the author. It's comforting to somebody to have this house in the
> > form that it exists, periodically gaining power and then
> > symbolically brought low--but never healed or destroyed.
> > <snip>
> >>a_svirn:
> I suppose. Only that's ... more than a little unwise of them, is
> it? Why would they find recreating the Original Rift over and over
> again comforting?
Betsy Hp:
I was struck by your capitalizing the phrase, "Original Rift".
Because I think, in the end, we learn there wasn't really a "rift" at
all. I think the presence of Salazar, of Slytherin, was a problem
from the get go. (Here's hoping this will make sense. *g*)
My pre-DH theory on "how it will all end" depended a great deal on
Slytherin being a legitimate Founder, a fellow hopeful in that little
band of witches and wizards hoping for a brighter future (cue Whitney
Houston). That "something dark" occured and Slytherin left, but that
it wasn't due to the innate darkness of Slytherin himself. That
there was a good and noble core to his "House Values" that got
twisted over time, culminating in Voldemort. That in the destruction
of Voldemort that darkness would be cleansed from Slytherin House and
therefore Hogwarts and therefore the WW. (Harry restores an upset
balance.)
But that's not how DH panned out.
Salazar Slytherin wasn't a good guy whose message or code became
twisted over time: he was always the bad snake in paradise. (Which
of course begs the question Magpie raised: How the hell did this guy
get to be a Founder in the first place?) Fortunately the three good
Founders figured out Slytherin's not-at-all-hidden agenda (bright
bulbs those Founders *eg*) and kicked the snake out. But for some
odd reason, they left his snake pit behind. End result? Voldemort.
But based on that, there was never a "Rift" to be healed. The
departure of Salazar was a necessary culling or cleansing or
purging. If Voldemort accurately interpreted his fore-father's
agenda (and everything in DH says he did) than why, oh why, is JKR
keeping the snake pit around?
> >>a_svirn:
> By maintaining the house of the power-hungry pure-blood
> supremacists they ensure transmitting their ideology through
> generations, they help to preserve and develop their social
> networks.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
I suspect (though I'm not sure we'll ever know for sure: JKR is
remarkably slippery about Slytherin) her idea is that badness is just
part of the human experience and so it's silly to try and change it.
Which is why the Potter-series ends without any type of healing (a
closing of the "Rift" or a purging of the snake pit). Harry doesn't
*restore* a balance, he *maintains* one.
Slytherin *is* bad. But they're impossible to get rid of, just as
bad people will always exist in real life, snakes will always pop
into attempts at paradise. IMO, it's a morally lazy way of looking
at things, and would have (among other things) left Hitler running
rampant, but there are those who feel this way.
I guess it's a sort of fundamental interperation of the "fall of
man". (Which, actually goes a long way to explaining to me why
Slytherin seems so strongly coded as female. The whole woman=evil
fallacy. Can't kill them, 'cause then no babies, but we can keep
those evil seducers and tricksters *down*.)
Voldemort got too big for his britches. He needed to be reminded of
his place. Interestingly, it was his refusal to return to his place
(feel remorse) that kills him, not Harry. Snape *did* take his
place. And in the epilogue we see that Draco is also aware of his
place. *That's* why all is well. Slaves are happily picking cotton
and the womens are staying quiet and respectful. All is well.
Betsy Hp (reminded again why she sees this series as, well, sort of,
kind of, evil <rb*e*g>)
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