Scarlett O'Harry was : House elves and some spoilers for Swordspoint etc

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Tue Jan 22 16:05:06 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 180851

> Magpie:
> > House elves being slaves is not an opinion, that's canon. They're 
> > owned. I don't think it's slavery because it "looks like" human 
> > slavery, I think it's slavery because slavery means being owned by 
> > another person and being subject to their will. 
> 
> SSSusan:
> And what of those who WERE offered their freedom and declined?  How 
> can they then still be considered *owned* by another and classified 
> as slaves?

Pippin:
It's not really the definition of slavery that's off here, IMO. It's the
definition of "kind master."

In order to make this very strained analogy, we've been shoe-
horning things into the definition of 'kind master' that would make
Miz Scarlett fall down in a faint.

Would she offer her slaves freedom for the asking?

 Would she insist that their masters must keep them even if they break the 
law or grossly neglect their duties as Winky appeared to have done? 

Would she think they should be treated with kindness and respect, and
protected from punishment, not only when they are obedient but when 
they are as disloyal, incompetent, dirty, recalcitrant and rude as Kreacher was?

Frankly my dear, not a chance.

Pippin
guiltily fond of the other well-known green-eyed slaveowning
protagonist in fiction





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