House elves and some spoilers for Swordspoint/ some Kreacher
dumbledore11214
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Wed Jan 23 02:11:48 UTC 2008
No: HPFGUIDX 180876
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Bart Lidofsky <bartl at ...> wrote:
>> Well, there are a number of animal species that naturally look for
and
> follow leaders (such as dogs). Most people don't consider the way we
> treat dogs to be slavery. Now, house elves can talk, and have shown
the
> ability to reason. But where did house elves come from? The first,
and
> only correct answer is JKR's imagination. <SNIP> So, are they:
<SNIP>
>> D) Genetically engineered from multiple species, including people?
> E) Created by wizards out of non-living materials?
<SNIP>
Alla:
I think that there is one thing that may point us to elves being
created artificially, but that depends on one rather important fact
that I may have gotten wrong.
We do not see house elves reproducing, right? No indication of
children house elves, no? Or is there a mention?
If there is no mention anywhere, I think it CAN be a support towards
speculation of their artificial creation and maybe even from non-
living materials.
Does not have to be of course, but why wouldn't we seen house elves
families? Or did we?
Carol responds:
<SNIP>
I understand why you think that Kreacher is (partially?) responsible
for Sirius Black's death (though I don't agree). But do you also blame
him for Regulus's self-sacrifice? Surely, it was Reggie's own decision
to return to the cave with Kreacher, drink that terrible potion
himself even though he knew what it would do (he would be forced to
drink the water and die horribly, killed by Inferi), and it was also
his plan, and, indeed, his order to destroy the locket, that saved
Kreacher's life by causing him to Disapparate from the cave. <SNIP>
Alla:
Oh, no, I believe I have objective reason to blame Kreacher dear for
Sirius' death ( partial of course), but I blame him for Reg's death
out of pure prejudice against this character, you know?
Sort of like Harry being blamed for Sirius' death ( loose analogy but
holds the water for me).
So, in short I do know that Kreacher objectively had nothing to do
with Regulus' death, except being the one for whom Reg sacrificied it.
I just hate little bagger.
Alla
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