PS/SS - chapters 2-5 post DH look

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 24 16:05:57 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 180934


Bex:
<SNIP>
However, in all of Harry's cases, except
for the snake incident and possibly the teacher's wig, he is scared 
or
angry - I think that when emotions are running high, more powerful 
magic
is possible - either a more powerful version of the spell you're
attempting, or just a powerful spell. So either Harry had a major 
flash
of anger and JK just didn't show it to us, or a vanishing charm on an
inanimate plate of glass is not /that/ difficult. I'm going with the
latter.


Alla:

Isn't uncontrollable magic in kids only happens when they are scared 
or angry? Where did I get this from I am not sure, probably 
interview. But you could be right.



Alla:

I did not remember, but I looked it up on Lexicon and Minerva 
teaches Vanishing spell in fifth year transfiguration, so it does 
seems to be quite complex one to me.

Bex:
I read this list to remind myself of how DENSE I can be 
sometimes. :) I
never saw that line. But those little exchanges ("Maybe we should 
write
back?", "I'm not sure that will work, Vernon.") show she DOES know a
little about the magical world - at least the communication parts.


Alla:

Oh LOL, we all were dense about many topics and others indeed 
sometimes helped me to see clearer . I saw that line, just never 
realized that Petunia indeed knew something.




Bex:
Let's not discuss the "abandon the child with Muggles" business - 
people
start throwing things. ;) I saw this quote as tainted with jealousy 
from
the start. Definitely a case of the green-eyed monster here - glad 
I'm
not dense all the time.

Alla:

Oh I can duck really well, no worries, but do not want to give up my 
slapping targets, sorry.

Speaking about jealousy though, I wonder what kind of jealousy you 
saw. Let me try to explain. Definitely some people speculated that 
Petunia was jealous way before book 7 came along. If I could only 
find Debbie's amazing post about Petunia for example, I will be so 
pleased.

I certainly did not see jealousy, BUT I could see the possibility of 
jealousy inspired by hatred. What I am trying to say is that just as 
I did not see Snape and Dumbledore conspiring for the Tower, but  
saw how the clues could be resolved that way, I can see how Petunia 
could be jealous and hating her sister.

What I did not see at all is Petunia being jealous and loving her 
sister, which we are supposedly told after book 7, yes?


Did you see the jealousy inspired by love if that makes sense?


Bex:
<SNIP>

I think that's what Ollivander is going at here - someone that 
powerful
and that talented (yes, he was talented), who could hold an entire
society in a state of constant fear is a "great" wizard - Ollivander 
is
in fearful awe. It's a testament to the strength of the wizard and 
the
connection he has with his wand that he can do so much. Voldy didn't
become the most feared Dark Wizard in decades or more by charisma 
alone.
He's one wicked wizard - and I mean that in every sense of the word.


Alla:

Right, so basically what you are saying is that he is respecting 
Voldie's raw magical power, yes? I totally understand. I mean, I am 
not agreeing that power in the negative deserves respect, but I 
guess this is what it is.



Potioncat:
Oh my. I haven't heard mention of the twins in a long time!


Alla:

Yes, they are back from vacation and ready to cause mayhem. 
MAHAHHAHAH.



Potioncat:
You know, I used to think that the letters were magically addressed--
by the castle itself. Or, if anyone wrote the letter it was Professor
McGonagall. But, how many times has Harry handed Hedwig a letter and
just told her who it was for. So, I'm not sure----Yes. I think DD
wrote it, and knew of it.


Alla:

Right, for some time I thought that the magical quill who writes the 
names of the magical kids in the book does the letter addresses as 
well.

Potioncat:
I really do, ever so much more than before, think that DD did what he
thought he had to do. I'm not so sure that he had any sort of
friendship with James and Lily; and did not have a particular reason
to have special affection for Harry.


Alla:

Let the slapping session begin LOL. But I agree that Dumbledore did 
not have a particular reason to have a special affection for Harry 
that was made very clear to me






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