Harry Potter is Anti-Woman/Secret Sorting Hat

sistermagpie sistermagpie at earthlink.net
Mon Jan 28 04:45:18 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 181060

> Magpie:
> Yup, I agree. The Aurors are mostly background characters to begin
> with. As a character Tonks' storyline is about Lupin. The Order is 
lame
> as a group, imo. The main thing they do is twice ferry Harry from
> Grimmauld Place to the Weasleys. If particularly exciting stuff was
> done by Tonks there we didn't see it (just as if anything 
particularly
> exciting happened when Lupin was spying on the werewolves we didn't 
see
> it).
> 
> <SNIP>
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Well, you asked for examples of her skill as auror and I mentioned 
one 
> thing that she did in battle of MoM that I consider impressive and 
> exciting - she took a high level DE out of commision, don't you 
agree?

Magpie:
I don't remember asking for examples of her skill as an auror.:-) 
It's not that I doubt she has the skills aurors have. I know she's 
with the other Order members in their scenes in OotP. She's part of 
the fight in the MoM. I'm just saying that Tonks is mostly important 
for her Lupin storyline. I've no doubt she can take part in a fight--
and everybody can throwing stunning spells so I wouldn't doubt she 
could.  But her main job as a character is her relationship with 
Lupin. Her most obvious power is used for entertainment purposes so 
we can see she has it and note when it's gone and wonder why.

Alla:
> And of course she is shown as being depressed in HBP, etc. I just 
> think that for the background character, her skill is hinted with 
this 
> example.

Magpie:
We've got a bunch of aurors who can do all the things one has to do 
to be an auror. Tonks is the one who changes her hair color and her 
nose for entertainment before losing her powers to despair when her 
boyfriend leaves her. Then she gets married, has a baby and dies. If 
somebody claimed that Tonks was incompetent at work I'd say there's 
no evidence of that, but somebody gave me that character as being 
about being a strong female Auror I'd think that was disappointing.

Catlady:
> I went to a college which had a lot of Traditions, including one 
which
> was a surprise for the freshmen. The other years prepared this
> surprise, but it was very important to keep it secret so it would 
be a
> surprise. For decades, not only students and teachers, but also the
> alumnae, kept it secret. So I never doubted that Hogswarts could 
keep
> the Sorting Hat secret from incoming students.

zanooda:
If so, it's a pity Harry was such a blabbermouth and told his kids
about the Sorting Hat :-), because they (or at least Albus) definitely
know all about it!

Magpie:
In Harry's defense, maybe he knew it was more important that he and 
his friends know nothing about the Hat than his kids, because we 
readers were supposed to be in suspense with Harry and now we already 
know about the Hat.

-m





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