student!Snape keeping Lupin's secret (was Re: Sirius as a dog)
montavilla47
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Thu Jan 31 00:50:16 UTC 2008
No: HPFGUIDX 181154
> > zgirnius:
> > Do we really think they would make a (positive) exception for
> > Severus, attacking him only individually?
> <SNIP>
>
> Alla:
>
> I do not know about "us" but I think that they certainly attacked
> Snape individially and not individually, just as Snape attacked them
> individually or not.
>
> Nobody contradicted Sirius at the end of seven books that Snape ran
> with Slytherin gang. Nobody contradicted Sirius that Snape was in
> close relationships with Malfoy and I think that the fact that
> Narcissa came to him in HBP to save her son strengthens that
> assertion.
> Nobody told us at the end of seven books that Marauders stole
> Snape's precious book, so I take it that they did not steal anything
> and Snape spread it out himself or with the help of his Slytherin
> friends.
Montavilla47:
Actually, there's nothing in canon about any rumor of the Marauders
stealing Snape's precious book (I assumed you mean the HBP's
potions book)?
Or do you mean that Snape and his Slytherin friends spread the
Levicorpus spell? In that case, I agree with you that there is
no canon on how the Levicorpus spell became known by James. Any
theory on how that happened is pretty much as valid as any other.
> Zara:
> > Another is a detail of SWM not mentioned by Leah. The students
> whose
> > reaction to the scene was "apprehensive" seem, again, to point to
> a
> > pattern of behavior by the Marauders that intimidated other
> > students. `Fair' hexing matches with `worthy' opponents seems
> > unlikely to create this reaction, IMO.
>
> Alla:
>
> Um, that can be the reaction of people who are affraid that Snape
> will get up and start hexing them with Sectusemptra left and right,
> no?
>
> Or that Malfoy and Co shows up and do the same thing with Snape.
Montavilla47:
Strictly speaking, it's impossible for Malfoy to show up. In DH, he
was shown wearing a prefect's badge as he welcomed first-year
Severus to the Slytherin table. That would mean that he was in
his fifth year. Unless Lucius had to repeat several years, he would
have graduated long before SWM took place.
As for Rosier, Wilkes, Mulciber, or Avery, they might have shown
up, but they pointed didn't. None of Snape's housemates lifted
a finger. He had to be rescued by a *girl*.
I'm not going to try and convince you with this next bit, but I am
going to comment on what seems to me to be... somewhat
puzzling and inconsistent.
In OotP, when Harry confronts Sirius about SWM, Lupin explains
that Snape was just a weird little oddball (or WTTE), and that James
and Sirius were "the height of cool."
Now, it's not impossible for Snape to be both a weird little oddball
and part of a school gang. Nor is it impossible for him to be
part of a gang and to be targeted by members of another gang.
But it seems wrong in the dynamics of school boy groups for one
group to attack the mascot of another gang without instant
retaliation. So that if Snape had any value to the Future Death
Eaters of Hogwarts, they'd have come running with their wands
out immediately, no matter how "cool" James and Sirius are.
However, if Snape is viewed as an oddball by the Slytherins
and pushed out to the fringes of any Slytherin gang, then
he could be attacked with impunity (as long as those meddling
teachers aren't around.)
Or, perhaps the Slytherins would have helped, if Snape were
of a high status in his house and secretly disliked or envied.
But that also seems implausible, because Snape couldn't
really earn that kind of status in Slytherin, given his parents,
general poverty, and personality.
Montavilla47
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