[HPforGrownups] Re: CHAPDISC: DH24, The Wandmaker

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No: HPFGUIDX 183674

> Oryomai:

> I can only speak for me, but the book gave me the impression that

> Draco's wand was the Elder Wand?  Let me try to explain it better.

> When I read the book, I got the impression that Draco's wand somehow

> became the Elder Wand?  The entire "wand" thing was just so utterly

> lame and complicated to me that I had a lot of trouble sorting it 
out.

> I thought that Draco's wand became the Elder Wand when he disarmed

> Dumbledore.  Well, then it makes even less sense to me!

> Okay, Draco disarmed Dumbledore.  So the Elder Wand was loyal to him. 


> The big question for me now is this: why does it matter that Harry

> disarmed Draco if the wand Draco was using is not the Elder Wand?

> Draco's "regular" wand was still loyal to him when he got control of

> the Elder Wand, right?  How does the fact that Harry has possession 
of

> Draco's "regular" wand affect the Elder Wand?

>



Anne Squires:

5.  Harry later defeated Draco and took possession of Draco's wand.

At that point all wands that owed allegiance to Draco shifted their

allegiance to Harry.  That's two wands.  Harry became the master of

Draco's wand and the master of the Elder Wand.  Even though the Elder

Wand was never physically in Draco's possession or in Harry's 
possession.


7.  Harry was the master of Draco's wand, the wand he was using during

the final confrontation.  Harry was also master of the Elder Wand, the

wand LV was using.  Harry had been the Elder wand's master ever since

he had taken Draco's wand.  So, Harry was master of both wands in the

duel.


Oryomai
But why would the allegiance of both wands transfer?  I understood it 
that you had to win the allegiance of *each* wand.  The Elder Wand had 
no reason to switch its allegiance to Harry.  Harry took Draco's 
original wand.  I'm also wondering how Voldy thought he would get the 
allegiance (although I wouldn't put it beyond him to have never asked 
about it, believing that force was sufficient).  I know that the WW 
isn't the most logical place on the planet, but now I even more firmly 
believe that this Who's on First wand allegiance switch during the 
pivotal battle is a complete and total cop out on the part of JKR.  To 
me, it comes across as very sloppy.

Oryomai