Changes to JKR official site - or bad memory?

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 183704

---  "yraiym" <goodgracious at ...> wrote:
>
> > ...
> 
> bboyminn:
> > She is perfectly able to tell partial truths or even 
> > misleading truths. Here statement on the Secret Keeper 
> > refers to a specific moment in time - "...remain as it 
> > was at the moment of their  death". That doesn't mean 
> > that more details can't come to light AFTER the moment 
> > of death. 
> 
> yraiym:
> You have hinted at these other details in other posts.  ...
>
> ... another possibility: though this is NOT on the page, 
> Dumbledore could have prepared the FC in such a way on 12GP,
> or changed it.. such that, when he died ..., all those in on
> the secret became SKs.  There is no canon that I know of to
> support this, but is this the sort of thing you have in mind,
> the  "as it was at the moment of their death"?
> 


bboyminn:

I can't say that's not possible. It also, tangentally, brings
up some points I've made before, neither the characters in
the books nor the author nor any one else, speaks in absolute
truths. When Hermione says that Yaxley can not get into 
Grimmauld Place because she thinks she revealed the secret to
him, that's not fact, that's Hermione's interpretation.

When, Flitwick describes the Fidelius Charm, he is not 
necessarily making a complete all-inclusive all-defining
statement of fact. I take it as him merely given in a basic
illustrative explanation for the benefit of someone who has
never heard of it.

In the case of JKR and the statement in question, she answers
the question within limits. She is not giving a complete
all-inclusive all-defining explanation. She is giving a limited
explanation that goes as far as she takes it.

JKR explains the status of the Fidelius Charm at the moment of
the Secret Keeper's death. But she makes no mention and gives
no explanation of what happens after the Secret Keeper's death.

Apparently, after the Secret Keeper dies, those who know the
Secret become mini-Secret Keepers. 

It seems that that is true to the best of the knowledge of 
the involved characters, so we can take it as reasonably
likely truth.

If I can illustrate -

JKR: "I have a blue car."

We later learn it is a blue Ford. We can really call her a
liar or claim she made a mistake because she failed to 
mention that the blue car was a Ford. 

Her statement is true as far as she took it, but that doesn't 
mean there can't be more truth to it. Again, the problem 
only occurs if a person takes her original statement as 
complete all-inclusive all-defining truth. Which upon thinking
about it, we should have know that there was more to the
story.

> from the post 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/183412
> bboyminn wrote:
> As to Hermione bringing Yaxley inside the bounds of the
> Fidelius, how is that a conflict. Where willful of not,
> she still brought someone inside the bound and thereby
> revealed the secret. Although, this is never really proven.
> 
> yraiym:
> Good point, and one I had noticed.  It is quite possible that
> Mr. Weasley and Hermione are wrong: the OP have NOT become 
> SKs.  So, when Hermione brings Yaxley along, and notices on 
> the doorstep that his grip loosened, she was wrong in 
> attributing it to him thinking they had arrived at their 
> destination.  It is just possible that he was magically 
>forced out of the bounds of 12GP, as Hermione did not 
> have the ability to let him in on the secret.  ...
> 
> My 2 cents, 
> yraiym
>

bboyminn:

I think we can reasonably conclude that all those who knew
the Secret are now Secret Keepers. Note I said /reasonably/
not absolutely; there is a small element of doubt. 

As to what happened to Yaxley, we can't know because Harry
is our point of view character and he isn't there to see
what happens, nor is anyone else.

You may be right, Yaxley may have been thrown out of the 
boundary of the charm, or he may have simply fallen out as
Hermione makes her escape. It may be that he never fully
realize where he was, and since he didn't grasp it while
in the boundary of the charm, he may not actually know.

But again, this all happens off-screen/off-page, out of
Harry's sight, so all we have are Hermione and Harry's 
speculation about what /might/ have happened. 

I'm sure in the end, after Voldemort's defeat all these minor
detail were ironed out, but we simply don't get to see them
so we simply don't get to know for sure. 

Steve/bluewizard