Elves again was: Wands and Wizards...Again

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No: HPFGUIDX 183716

Magpie:
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 And we can't quite just brush it aside by saying 
> that if Kreacher wanted to leave Harry and serve someone else Harry 
> would just let him and thus he isn't a slave, because Harry 
actually 
> didn't do that. Perhaps he'd do it now or in the future because he 
> now has reason to want to make Kreacher happy, but that still comes 
> down to Harry's needs and wishes.

Alla:

Okay, I know that I cut important points of your argument, but I did 
it just to show what bothers me in this argument, I think the first 
half of your sentence shows that perfectly actually.

It is the " and we can't just brush it aside" part of it.

I get this feeling that every time when we are discussing house elves 
and slavery, the argument that basically accepts the situation with 
Harry, Kreacher and sandwich one way or another and in large because 
Kreacher is indeed willing and happy to serve Harry somehow gets 
dismissed as not, I don't even know what the word is here? Not 
thought out enough? As if only the reader sat down and thought about 
it, she would see the light. 

I mean, you (hypothetical you) think that this is exact analogy to 
human slavery? I can see where you are coming from, really and I 
respect this argument.

But when I say that I do not buy House elves situation as exact 
analogy of human slavery, I am not brushing anything aside. I 
considered all the facts, I came to different conclusion than you 
did, that is all.

To me, House elves slavery does not even come CLOSE to human slavery 
and no, 
it does not all come down to Harry's needs and wishes to me.

As far as I am concerned, if it makes elves happy so be it. And when 
Kreacher wanted a different master, he should have gotten different 
master. At the end of the novel he does not want a different master, 
he is happy, so I really do not see a problem here. If he still 
wanted different master, I would absolutely see a problem though.

JMO,

Alla