Yaxley and the Ministry WAS: How we read HP books

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> zanooda:
> 
> When I said "escaped", I meant escaped later, not from the top of 
the 
> tower :-)! But you may be right, we don't know exactly what 
happened 
> there.

Alla:

I just meant escaped fast enough for people not know who he is 
exactly be it from the top of the tower or not. And I meant he 
escaped fast enough for him to be able to stay in the Ministry 
without being thrown out as DE.


 > > Alla wrote:
> 
> > I mean, if he indeed has an access to Minister, no less, isn't 
> > easier assumption to make that he was working at the Ministry 
> > rather than he did it somewhere else?
> 
> zanooda:
> 
> No, Yaxley didn't have access to the Minister - Thicknesse was 
> *only* :-) Head of the Department of Magical Law Enforcement back 
> then. If Yaxley had access to the Minister, he wouldn't have needed 
> the help of Thicknesse and other high-ranking officials to 
overpower 
> Scrimgeour. Yaxley's plan was to Imperius Thicknesse so that 
> Thicknesse could Imperius other heads of departments.  <SNIP>

Alla:

I did mean Thicknesse though! Not Scrimgeour of course. I did not 
realize that I even needed to specify that.

> zanooda:
> 
> Oh, oh, maybe it was not in DH, but somewhere in HBP? I'll be on a 
> lookout for this quote too :-). Maybe I just forgot :-)! Anyway, if 
> we find it, I will consider it a little Flint, LOL!


Alla:

I cannot find it now, I thought maybe in the first chapter of HBP, I 
even did something that I did not do for a longest time ever, went to 
Lexicon. Lexicon says that Yaxley was never captured or sent to 
Azakaban, which I agree with. But I also have to say that I think 
Lexicon quotes the wrong chapter for that or maybe I missed it. 
Lexicon in Yaxley entry says that he was never captured and went to 
Azkaban. I agree with it, to me it makes a great deal of sense that 
he could infiltrate Ministry by working there and that means to me 
that he never went in Azkaban. But Lexicon gives HBP2 as support for 
that proposition and I cound not find anything in there.

So, sure I will admit defeat as to direct quote, but I reserve the 
right to come back to it when I will be rereading HBP. I do think 
though that Yaxley was placed at the ministry and stayed there to do 
the inflitration at least by implication from the 
text.