Did Severus Murder

[jkoney65]

No: HPFGUIDX 183199

Jack-A-Roe
snip> > 
> > "You alone know whether it will harm your sould to help an old man
> avoid pain and humiliation," said Dumbledore.
> > 
> > then
> > 
> > His tone was light, but his blue eyes pierced Snape as they had 
> > frequently pierced Harry, as though the soul they discussed was 
> > visible to him. At last Snape gave a another curt nod.
> > 
> > I read it as if Dumbledore knows that Snape has damaged his soul 
and
> that helping him along will not damage it any further than it 
already
> has been damaged. The phrasing of "pierced" brings to mind 
something 
> being damaged. The fact that it is used twice before the word soul 
led
> me to inerpret the scene that Dumbledore knew about Snapes past.
> 
> Carol:
> If that's the case, Harry's soul is damaged, too, since the narrator
> says, "his blue eyes pierced Snape as they had frequently pierced
> Harry." (It's used twice because one reference is to Snape and the
> other to Harry.)

Jack-A-Roe:
No, you are misinterpreting what I was saying. I said the phrasing 
conjures the image in your head of something being damaged. Right 
before this we are talking about about Snape's soul. Then we are 
talking about Snape being pierced by Dumbledore's gaze. To me it's 
obvious that JKR was trying to get us to make the connection 
ourselves. Because Snape does agree to do it.




> Jack-a-Roe:
> > If you read the scene another way and determine that he somehow 
> > joined the deatheaters and rose through their ranks without 
> > committing murder doesn't that fact that he belongs to a 
terrorist 
> > organization that uses murder as one of its tools make him an 
> > accessory to the murders?
> >
> Carol responds:
> *Of course*, he was "a tool and accessory to the murders" committed 
by
> the terrorist organization he had joined, particularly if he 
concocted
> poisons that he knew would be used to murder people. But that is
> different from commiting the murders himself, which we have no
> evidence that he did. The only Killing Curse--and, for that matter,
> the only Unforgiveable Curse of any description--that we ever see
> Snape cast is the one that kills Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders.
> 
> Speculate all you like. I'm simply saying that *canon* gives us no
> indication that Snape ever killed anyone besides Dumbledore,
 and some
> indication (his concern for his soul

Jack-A-Roe:
Canon may not say it specifically, but it is an obvious 
interpretation of the scene to me. Snape asking about his soul 
sounded more like him complaining that Dumbledore liked Draco better 
than him.  Something like "your more worried about his soul than 
mine" to which DD responds that only know if yours is already 
damaged. After that Snape nods as if to agree with DD that it won't 
make it any worse.

One of the next scenes we see after this is Snape again being 
somewhat childish. It's the one where Snape is complaining to DD that 
he is telling Potter things that he isn't telling Snape and DD tells 
him to come to his office later on. Again it comes across as you like 
him better than you like me.