Epilogue/ Horcruxes and Hallows

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 25 14:31:27 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 183396

> Jen: That's what I think too, that the Hallows especially were 
meant to 
> be more symbolic & tied to the theme of death than a plot to get 
> Voldemort killed.  They were that too of course, a vehicle to make 
it 
> possible for the younger & less powerful Harry to destroy 
Voldemort, 
> but the reason why Voldemort died & Harry lived was primarily about 
> human emotions and how each approached death rather than the 
objects 
> involved.  

Alla:

I just realized (DUH Alla) that all that she did with this is (IMO) 
to continue pattern with some previous books where the objects are 
seemingly important, but it is really not about them at all.

I mean nobody argues that the first book is really about philosopher 
stone, right? I think that all that sorcerer stone does is shows how 
differently Harry and Voldemort approach immortality and sorcerer 
stone is just that, an object.

But maybe first book is a bad example since there are could be no 
clues yet because it was **first book**. Let's take a book which 
comes up two books later – Goblet of Fire. Anybody can name **any** 
clues that will lead us to believe that Goblet of fire will feature 
in the fourth book? I know I cannot, since Goblet of fire is not 
something that is supposed to be foreshadowed IMO. Goblet of fire is 
a technical means to get Harry to tournament and to lead him to 
Graveyard where Voldemort's resurrection will occur. And of course I 
can name clues that are in the earlier books about Voldemort's coming 
back.

I think Rowling followed the pattern pretty nicely here. 

 
Jen:
> I found the storyline clunky at times though, particularly the 
whole 
> wand order thing at the end that took away from a powerful moment 
in 
> HBP with Draco/Dumbledore on the tower.  If only that moment could 
have 
> remained symbolic as well, not simply a way for Harry to take 
> possession of the Elder wand!  I felt let down by that moment in 
DH, 
> thought JKR reneged on a really moving piece of writing from the 
tower 
> scene.  Now I realize it was likely only moving in my own mind and 
was 
> merely a plot device in hers.

Alla:

I know, believe me I do. For all my dislike of Draco, I do absolutely 
see where you are coming from and normally I would feel the same way, 
as I said, I am a sucker for the moments like that
 had it been not 
for my dislike of Draco.
Just as normally I would want to hug Snape when I read about him 
looking suicidal when he comes to Dumbledore, and this moment 
bizarrely leaves me cold, same thing here, I know how this moment can 
be viewed as powerful.






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