CHAPDISC: DH 23, Malfoy Manor

[rlaw186]

No: HPFGUIDX 183458

Zara <zgirnius at ...> wrote:
>
> CHAPTER DISCUSSIONS: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
> Chapter 23, Malfoy Manor
>
> Zara:
> 1) What did you think of Harry's story, that he is a
> Slytherin named Vernon Dudley whose father works at the
> Ministry?

Rlaw:
It was believable enough at first because of the fact that
Harry's was able to describe in accuracy what the Slytherin
common room looked like. Harry's story would've been more
believable if his scar wasn't visible at all, and if both
Ron and Hermione had altered their appearances.

> Zara:
> 2) Greyback takes the party to Malfoy Manor rather than
> summoning Voldemort himself. Harry surmises this is
> because Greyback is not a marked Death Eater. What do
> you think?

Rlaw:
I've no idea on whether he was a DE or not, though it has
never been stated. What we do know is Greyback is in charge
of the werewolf army.

> Zara:
> 3) Narcissa Malfoy seems to have some authority: Greyback
> and his men defer to her, and she decides to let them in.
> What is her status, do you think?

Rlaw:
I think it's more along the lines of Narcissa being the
matriarch of the Malfoy Manor and that she's a DE's wife.

> Zara:
> 4) What did you think of Draco in the scene where he is
> asked to identify Harry?

Rlaw:
Draco has resigned himself that he's pretty much a prisoner
in his own home. When asked to identify Harry, he gives a
half-hearted attempt because he knows Voldemort or `Aunt'
Bella would still kill him and his family once that get
what they want.

> Zara:
> 5) Lucius, Bella, and Greyback all argue over who should
> get what credit for the capture. What does each hope to
> gain?

Rlaw:
Lucius hopes to gain back his position by his Dark Lord's
side. Bella hopes to be the one the Dark Lord favors above
all of his other DE's and gain the position she feels she
so rightly deserves for serving 13 years of her life in
Azkaban because she pledged her allegiance to him. Greyback
hopes to gain a seat of power (so to speak) and go around
turning others into werewolves and raise his werewolf army
to hate all muggles and non-pure blood witches and wizard.

> Zara:
> 6) Did you learn anything knew about/form any new opinions
> of Bellatrix in this chapter?

Rlaw:
We learn that Bellatrix doesn't care who gets in her way,
even if it's family. She only cares about her position and
being the one whom Voldemort favors.

> Zara:
> 7) What did you think prompted Bella's extreme fear when
> she believed the Sword of Gryffindor was stolen from her
> vault?

Rlaw:
DD once said that the Dark Lord's wrath was terrible to
behold (forgot which book). Bella knows that Voldemort would
punish her maybe even kill her without a second thought and
without feeling any remorse.

> Zara:
> 8) What did you think was the explanation for Dumbledore's
> eye in the broken mirror?

Rlaw:
This was already explained by J.K.  Both Aberforth and
Dumbledore have the same brilliant blue eyes.

> Zara:
> 9) "May your loyalty never waver again", Voldemort said
> to Peter after giving him the silver hand in GoF. Now we
> know what he meant. What did you think of Peter's death?
> Did you like or dislike the way it ended his story? Do you
> see any special meaning in it?

Rlaw:
I think Peter had a somewhat fitting death for a rat. The
special meaning: never bite the hand that feeds you.

> Zara:
> 10) Do you think, when Peter let Harry go, he experienced
> a sincere regret for his past actions? Why or why not?

Rlaw:
He probably did. Harry could have let Remus and Sirius kill
Peter for betraying his parents to Voldemort. But just by
showing Peter that small act of kindness (something Peter
probably hadn't seen since his days at Hogwarts), Peter
remembered what Harry did for him.

> Zara:
> 11) Why do you think Griphook lied to Bella?

Rlaw:
Harry asked him to. Though if he didn't lie to Bella, who's
to say that his life would've been spared once Voldemort
returned?

> Zara:
> 12) What did you think was going on with Voldemort in this
> chapter? What ideas did you have concerning the identity
> of the old man in the tower?

Rlaw:
Voldemort was looking for the one who held the Elder wand.
Something that he felt he needed in order to defeat Harry.

> Zara:
> 13) Can someone explain to me why Dobby's death is the
> one death in this book that originally did, and still does,
> move me to tears, even though I always found him annoying?

Rlaw:
Dobby had his own bond with Harry. Harry saved him from a
life of servitude with the Malfoys and showed Dobby random
acts of kindness even though he was not Dobby's master.
Dobby didn't have to help Harry do anything since Harry
wasn't his master, but Dobby knew what Harry was worth (not
just hero-worshipping). And because of this, Dobby sacrificed
his life to help Harry and his friends to safety. Something
I think no other house-elf would've done even if Harry had
helped them.