CHAPDISC: DH 23, Malfoy Manor

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No: HPFGUIDX 183493

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Zara" <zgirnius at ...> wrote:
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> Discussion Questions:
> 1) What did you think of Harry's story, that he is a Slytherin 
> named Vernon Dudley whose father works at the Ministry?

Alla:

I thought it showed perfectly what Harry thinks of his uncle :)

 
> 2) Greyback takes the party to Malfoy Manor rather than 
> summoning Voldemort himself. Harry surmises this is because 
Greyback 
> is not a marked Death Eater. What do you think? 

Alla:

Right, I think I agree that Greyback feels Voldemort's underlying 
contempt for werewolves, even if said werewolves are on his side and 
commit montrocities. In short I agree with Harry here.


> 
> 3) Narcissa Malfoy seems to have some authority: Greyback and 
> his men defer to her, and she decides to let them in. What is her 
> status, do you think? Which events of this chapter helped to form 
> that opinion?

Alla:

What is her status among DE or in Malfoy hosehold? I mean, it is 
clear to me since the first chapter that Lucius and Draco do what 
Narcissa says and Lucius does not have much influence anymore, I 
guess in this chapter we do see that she is influential among other 
DE as well. Are you asking if we think she has a mark as well?

Um, I am tempted to say yes, but I will answer no, only because 
Narcissa would probably not want to put that ugly  mark on her 
beatiful skin, hehe.


> 4) What did you think of Draco in the scene where he is asked to 
> identify Harry?


Alla:

That he does not want to do bad thing, but is too undecisive to do 
the right thing. And the right thing as far as I am concerned would 
be to say no, not them. But at least he did not say it is them.

 
> 5) Lucius, Bella, and Greyback all argue over who should get 
> what credit for the capture. What does each hope to gain?


Alla:

I would be very interested in hearing your answer, actually. Are you 
saying that you thought they all had different goals to gain? I 
thought they all wanted same thing to increase their status in 
Voldemort's eyes.

 
> 6) Did you learn anything knew about/form any new opinions of 
> Bellatrix in this chapter?

Alla:

Nope, it just solidified my opinion that she is smart and crazy and 
should be locked up forever.


> 7) What did you think prompted Bella's extreme fear when she 
> believed the Sword of Gryffindor was stolen from her vault?

Alla:

I want to know what you think here too :) I suspect that I am missing 
something, but I did not see anything except her not wanting 
Voldemort to be angry with her.

 
> 8) What did you think was the explanation for Dumbledore's eye 
> in the broken mirror?

Alla:

First reaction, if I am not mistaken, hard to remember was that Harry 
is halucinating, I certainly did not think that it was Aberworth.

 
> 9) "May your loyalty never waver again", Voldemort said to Peter 
> after giving him the silver hand in GoF. Now we know what he meant. 
> What did you think of Peter's death? Did you like or dislike the 
way 
> it ended his story? Do you see any special meaning in it?

Alla:

Hmmmm, I was pretty sure that he would die trying to pay off his debt 
in a sense. I thought ending was very appropriate.


> 10) Do you think, when Peter let Harry go, he experienced a 
> sincere regret for his past actions? Why or why not?

Alla:

A little guilt for what he did to Harry? Maybe, hence the hesitation. 
Sincere regret for all the death and pain he caused, personally doubt 
it. 

 
> 11) Why do you think Griphook lied to Bella?

Alla:

Because he does not like DE much either?
 
> 12) What did you think was going on with Voldemort in this 
> chapter? What ideas did you have concerning the identity of the old 
> man in the tower?

Alla:

None, but I was so upset when he died. Wierd, eh? I never met this 
man before and JKR made me feel sorry right away.

 
> 13) Can someone explain to me why Dobby's death is the one death 
> in this book that originally did, and still does, move me to tears, 
> even though I always found him annoying? 
> 
> 

Alla:

Heee, here I can only second your question. I had the same feeling. I 
was mostly annoyed by Dobby through the book, but I cried as well 
here.

Thank you, excellent questions :)