CHAPDISC: DH 23, Malfoy Manor

[doddiemoemoe]

No: HPFGUIDX 183522

Discussion Questions:
1) What did you think of Harry's story, that he is a Slytherin
named Vernon Dudley whose father works at the Ministry?

Doddie here:

Probably one of the most lame/brilliant things Harry has done..

1.  I'm quite sure that most ww folks know about the Dursley's by 
now...Harry got lucky by being captured by those who were on the 
fringes of WW society anyhow..

2) Greyback takes the party to Malfoy Manor rather than
summoning Voldemort himself. Harry surmises this is because Greyback
is not a marked Death Eater. What do you think?

I have to agree with Harry...he has more than an assumption...he 
does still have that little soul bit of voldy's in him..and we did 
not see Greyback on the tower until after the cave in...

3) Narcissa Malfoy seems to have some authority: Greyback and
his men defer to her, and she decides to let them in. What is her
status, do you think? Which events of this chapter helped to form
that opinion?

Narcissa has all the authority her hubby lost and Draco gained 
earlier...I'm quite sure that if Lucius had never invited Voldy to 
their home...that he'd never be able to enter it..(hence we never 
see Voldy in Grimauld Place)...

The events of this chapter....we see Cissy curtial Lucius ..but 
never Bella...I just see Cissy do and prevent any action of her 
loved ones...

4) What did you think of Draco in the scene where he is asked to
identify Harry?

I think for once..he took a leaf out of his mother's book...and gave 
no helpful hand to Voldemort..

5) Lucius, Bella, and Greyback all argue over who should get
what credit for the capture. What does each hope to gain?

Lucius: wants a wand

Bella: wants sweet loving of Voldemort

Greyback:  wants acceptance into Wizarding society..

6) Did you learn anything knew about/form any new opinions of
Bellatrix in this chapter?

I learned Bella wanted Love of Voldemort above ALL!

7) What did you think prompted Bella's extreme fear when she
believed the Sword of Gryffindor was stolen from her vault?

I think Bella may have wanted to contact Snape IMMEDIATELY!!

8) What did you think was the explanation for Dumbledore's eye
in the broken mirror?

I never thought it was DD's eye...

9) "May your loyalty never waver again", Voldemort said to Peter
after giving him the silver hand in GoF. Now we know what he meant.
What did you think of Peter's death? Did you like or dislike the way
it ended his story? Do you see any special meaning in it?

This was my turning point...not for Snape, or Voldy, or 
Pettigrew....but for DD... DD expected loyalties to waver..

I liked Pettigrew's ending..as both Harry and Ron did try to save 
him...as they had more than one lesson in loyalty at this 
point...Here we have a prime example of no second chances from Voldy 
at this point..

10) Do you think, when Peter let Harry go, he experienced a
sincere regret for his past actions? Why or why not?

Yes Peter had sincere regret...(I believe he sincerely wanted to 
switch sides at this point if not before/earlier)..

11) Why do you think Griphook lied to Bella?

Because Griphook knew there was no hope in dealing with one so 
obsessed..(It speaks volumes about his subsequent behaviors).

12) What did you think was going on with Voldemort in this
chapter? What ideas did you have concerning the identity of the old
man in the tower?

Voldemort was distracted by the deathly Hallows. I thought the old 
man in the tower was Grindewald..

13) Can someone explain to me why Dobby's death is the one death
in this book that originally did, and still does, move me to tears,
even though I always found him annoying?

Dobby was the first person outside the mainstream WW Harry saved...

Dobby worshipped Harry before anyone else..(besides us readers)..

In all honesty.. house elves represent fans that are readers more 
than Harry fans in the books...

Hence the death of Dobby is representative of the death of 
readers....once Dobby died..we knew, as readers....we're fast 
approaching the end.

JKR is really that good...