The Seven Harrys (was Re: Dumbledore and other leaders WAS: Moody's death)

[Carol]

No: HPFGUIDX 181970


Carol earlier:
>  > They're counting on the element of surprise rather than letting
it break on its own at a predetermined time.
> 
Lee responded:
> I dunno. Just doesn't make sense. Since Snape had leaked the date to
LV, the only surprise the Order has was in the decoy Harrys, not the
timing. Charm or no charm, Harry was leaving that evening. The DEs
knew, the Order knew they knew, and all the contrivances for breaking
the charm were just useless extra complications to an already
over-complicated plan. Whether the charm breaks or no was utterly
inconsequential.

Carol again:
I think I see where you're confused. The Order did *not* know that LV
knew the date and time of the escape Saturday next at nightfall").
They had planted the false rumor (which Yaxley repeated to LV and
Snape contradicted) that Harry would not be moved until the thirtieth,
the night before his birthday, and that he would be accompanied by
Aurors. The Order had no way of knowing that Snape knew (through
Confundungus?) and had leaked the date and time. They were, in Snape's
words, "eschewing any form of transport that is controlled or
regulated by the Ministry," and they were, as I sat, counting on the
element of surprise, moving him before the date that the Confunded
Dawlish had reported.

While they are at 4 Privet Drive, they are protected by the charm
until it breaks as Harry leaves for the last time. They expect to
encounter a few stray DEs, but not the thirty or so they actually
encounter, or LV himself.

No, it's not a perfect plan, but I think I've figured out why Harry
didn't just Apparate, with or without a companion, and the heck with
the MoM knowing that he'd gone since they wouldn't be able to trace
him. He needed his trunk and Hedwig's cage, which is why the fake
Harrys also had trunks and cages with fake birds, hopefully
undetectable by DEs on brooms at high speeds focusing on people. Now
granted, DD seems to have sent Harry's trunk and Hedwig's cage on
ahead to the Burrow in HBP, but possibly the other members didn't know
how to do that.(?)

Regarding the supposedly nude Harrys--I'm sure they wore their own
underwear, sufficiently large that it would fit them when they turned
into Harry if they were smaller than he was. (It will be funny to see,
in the MWMNBN, a Harry in a Fleur-style negligee looking 'orrible.
:-D) The only scene in which Harry is specifically described as nude
is "King's Cross," and even then the directors will probably keep him
clothed. The idea of giving Harry a nude scene, even if it applied to
the Seven Potters and I don't think it does, is hardly sufficient
reason for the Order's plan as modified by DD. I think that JKR wanted
an exciting scene in which Moody and Hedwig would be killed and in
which the flying motorcycle could play a spectacular (and near-fatal)
role (not to mention George's losing an ear to Snape's Sectumsempra,
which helps to maintain the illusion of DE!Snape).

Someone commented that anyone would Apparate if LV tried to kill them,
but the Harrys (including Mundungus) weren't supposed to be in danger
of being killed because the few DEs they expected to meet would be
under orders not to kill him. I think they hoped to be sufficiently
spread out and nearly to their goals before the DEs brought
reinforcements and called in LV, who supposedly would not expect them
to move until the thirtieth. Again, no one in the Order knew that
Snape was (somehow) communicating with Mundungus, much less that he
and Portrait!Dumbledore were working together. Consequently, they had
no way of knowing that the date and time had been leaked.

Carol, who thought that Harry in the sidecar as it rapidly fell toward
the ground was straight out of a cartoon--until Hedwig's death took
all the (dark) comedy out of the scene