The Seven Harrys (was Re: Dumbledore and other leaders WAS: Moody's death)

sistermagpie sistermagpie at earthlink.net
Mon Mar 10 13:52:38 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 182003

> > Magpie:
> > Why not? Why is it so important for the characters that they 
stay and 
> > fight? Why not just apparate as soon as the DEs appeared to 
begin 
> > with? The point is to get from one place to another. Why not use 
> > their power to do that in the blink of an eye?
> 
> Pippin:
> If everyone disapparated except the real Harry, the DE's would 
have known
> which one was him. Harry was under orders not to apparate because 
it would
> give him away through the trace. It turned out that the Ministry 
was not
> as ready to arrest him as the Order feared. But they had no way of 
knowing
> that. 

Magpie:
I did mean Harry should of course also also apparate. Harry's 
already breaking his trace by doing magic during the chase.

> > Magpie:
>  It makes perfect sense for Rowling as an author, but for 
> > Dumbledore as leader it's ridiculous.
> >
> 
> Pippin:
> 
> In a way, I agree.
> 
>  I think we are supposed to see Dumbledore, and Gryffindors in
> general,  as a little too keen on sacrificing   for the greater 
good, 
> and a little too arrogant about deciding which goods ought to be 
> considered lesser. 
> 
> Aberforth says as much, doesn't he? 

Magpie:
Definitely. They're all a bit nuts that way imo--though they seem to 
live in a world where everyone agrees with them. Imo, the Slytherins 
really don't create a good balance for them at all, since not only 
do they seem to underneath share the same bias about courage, they 
inferior. 

Pippin:
> But... if everyone saw Slytherins as cowards and traitors, no one 
would 
> have trusted Slughorn enough to come back with him. *That* , to 
return 
> to the subject of an earlier thread, is why it's important that 
the townspeople 
> and the parents of the students who stayed behind followed 
Slughorn. 
> 
> What was remarkable was not that the Slytherin students would 
follow 
> Slughorn, but that other people did.

 
Magpie:
I don't think anybody had to much count on Slughorn one way or the 
other. They were also following Charlie Weasley. Any Slytherin 
students who followed Slughorn followed him out of the castle and 
away from the fight. Everybody else heard what was happening and ran 
in to fight.

-m





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