GoF CH 27-29 Post DH look

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 182127

> Potioncat:
> But Snape didn't need Legilimency. He had just left DD, and I think 
he
> had instructions to detain Harry. Later in GoF, Harry will view some
> of DD's memories with DD. One of them is is Snape saying that his 
mark
> is getting darker. I think that conversation was concluding just as
> Harry began screaming at the entrance to the headmaster's office.
> (Can't prove it, but it fits.)
<SNIP>

Alla:

But how does Dumbledore know that Harry is there already? Are you 
sure that he can hear anything behind the door as thick as it seems 
to me to be?

And again, this is to me is a perfectly plausible speculation, I mean 
I guess not that plausible since I am not sure I can buy that 
Dumbledore has the hearing that acute, but yes, sure, why not - one 
of the possibilities is that he has such amazing hearing as you seem 
to suggest.

Except what you said - no proof, and we will never know  for sure:-)



Potioncat :
<SNIP of the quote go UPTHREAD to read it>
>> So, I think Snape and DD were talking, possibly while DD used his
> Pensieve, and they heard Harry yelling. DD sent Snape down to detain
> Harry while DD collected his thoughts. Then he joined them. 
> 
> Snape actually calls Harry back to the entrance of DD's office.
> He stands there and talks to him. Look what he doesn't do: he 
doesn't
> allow Harry to leave the area where DD is, nor does he take Harry 
away
> from DD. <SNIP>

Alla:

How do you know that Snape * does not allow* Harry to leave? Does he 
say stay here Potter or else? I see Snape endulging himself, Snape, I 
mean, he sees  Harry, scared for the life and sanity of Crouch, 
panicking, etc and decides that he will get more kick and increase 
Harry's panic. IMO of course.

What I do not see is Snape restraining Harry from moving and say, 
leaving the area at all. Do you see any indication that Snape is 
doing that?

What I am trying to say is that imagine that Harry decides to forget 
Crouch suddenly ( unlikely, but bear with me) and wants to go back to 
his dorms. Do you see anything in that scene that restrains him from 
leaving?




Potioncat:
<SNIP>
> If Snape really wanted to keep Harry from DD--that is--if they 
hadn't
> known Harry was there---Snape could have let him go, or could have
> escorted him away. 

Alla:

I am at loss - where do you see that Snape was restraining him, I am 
not sure.

 
> Potioncat:
> Teasing? as in Fred and George?
> 
> The word "teasing" works perfectly here, but isn't a word I would 
have
> associated with Snape.
> 
> Teasing, as in a cat teasing a mouse. Oh, yeah. That works!
>


Alla:

I would choose the word poison dripping from his mouth and hurting 
everybody around him.

JMO,

Alla