GoF CH 27-29 Post DH look/ Snape and Harry redux

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 182198

> Pippin:
> I mean that Lily and James decided that they were willing to  defy
> Voldemort although they knew that Voldemort  was killing anyone who
> did that, and no one escaped him for long. They didn't go into  
hiding
> to protect their own lives, they did it to protect Harry. Do you 
think
> they were cowards like Karkaroff?

Alla:

I am not sure what this has to do with anything, really. No, they 
were not cowards of course, yes they went into hiding to protect 
Harry most likely, although I do not believe we know that they did 
not do so to protect themselves as well. I mean, not in a sense that 
they wanted to permanently leave the fight, but in a sense that now 
thanks to Snape they had brightly painted targets on their backs and 
they would prefer not to have those, or at least not to have larger 
targets than other order members. IMO of course.

Again, I dispute the no one escaped Voldemort for long part. Several 
order members did at least till the end of Second war and Yeah, I 
think that is quite a worthy years that they could have lived IMO.

  
>> Pippin:
> Adults, but not Lily and James? IMO, they wouldn't have wanted it 
that
> way. If somebody had to die to bring Voldemort down,  they
> wanted to be that person, just as Harry did. 

Alla:

The thing is there did not HAVE TO be one specific person to die to 
bring Voldemort down IMO, but for Snape's acting. And I did not mean 
that I did not want Lily and James to fight of course. I did not want 
them to die that stupidly, again not that I mind the manners of their 
death, I just mind that Snape took it upon himself to decide.

And now cutting from your other post.

Pippin
<SNIP>
I miss Snape -- it's part of the reason I still want to talk about the
books, and of course I'd love it if DH had more Snape in it. But,
y'know, JKR's writing career isn't over. I think a Snape-ish character
in a book written outright for adults, without the constraints JKR
faced as an all-ages author, might well out-Snape Snape himself!


Alla:
One of my latest obsessions erm... passions are the books by Guy 
Gavriel Kay and there is one book of his that I love the most 
called "A song for Arbonne" and has a very Snapish secondary 
character, whom I love to pieces.

And to confirm that this character is Snapish, you do not have to 
trust me, just ask Zara, who is Snape fan ;). I highly recommend this 
book if you did not read it.


> Pippin:
> I mean Voldemort would have continued to increase his power until, 
as
> in canon, he was no longer afraid to attack Dumbledore. 


Alla:

Sure, yes, but why much sooner death for Dumbledore necessarily?

 
> Pippin:
> LOL! Like they did when  Dumbledore died in canon?  They just
> transferred all their hopes to Harry and depended on him instead.
> 
> What you want would take a significant cultural change IMO -- the WW
> seems to expect that when a mighty dark wizard arises, a mighty 
white
> wizard will appear to fight him. The WW also had the opportunity to
> take on Grindelwald without DD's help, but they didn't.
>


Alla:

Oh yes of course, but that is why I said who knows, no guarantee, 
totally.