GoF CH 27-29 Post DH look/ Snape and Harry redux

potioncat willsonkmom at msn.com
Sat Mar 22 04:11:39 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 182201


> Alla:
> 
> Precisely, you put it in exact words I wanted to say. Very 
Important 
> Event that changed everything, that is all what I am saying, and 
just 
> as I am agreeing that obviously Potters COULD have died any other 
> way, I will never agree that the absence of such event did not give 
> them a chance not to die.
> 
Potioncat:
 When I first set myself the task of working out what would happen if 
Snape had not told LV the prophecy (using canon and interviews and 
myths) I realized that Snape's running to LV, and his subsequent 
remorse is what saved him. Had Snape not made that horrible decision 
to tell LV the prophecy, he may not have had reason to back out and 
reach a state of redemption. But if what you want is a happy 
childhood for Harry,then LV has to be destroyed before Harry is born. 
At least as best as I can work it out. And that would mean no 
prophecy at all.

The only way I can work out that Snape wouldn't tell, would be if he 
didn't hear it, or if he hadn't become a DE. I can't see why a DE 
wouldn't tell.
> 
> Alla:> 
> The only variable that changes in my speculation is the absence of 
> that very important event, nothing else.

Potioncat:
If the only change is that DD and Snape hear the prophecy but that 
Snape doesn't tell LV, then I think very little will change. Except 
perhaps that Snape will not have reason to be redeemed. 

I'm basing this on how prophecy stories usually work out. If we 
change who hears the prophecy or who doesn't we get a bit more lee-
way. But we also have to decide if the prophecy was the cause or just 
the pre-reporting of the events at Godrick's Hollow.
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> I think I addressed it replying to Magpie. I do not get how 
removing 
> major event would still lead to same results.  Maybe, sure 
everything 
> is possible, but it also maybe not, you know?

Potioncat:
OK, I don't think my view is the only one, I'm open to other 
scenarios. But how about an explanation of how you think events would 
have transpired to get the happier ending?  (Or if I missed it 
upthread, could you give a post number?)

>Potioncat, earlier: 
> I'm not very sure what effect it'll have on Harry Potter--more like
> his father James and maybe something like his mother Florence.
> Perhaps he'll have a crush on the green-eyed Sylvie Snape, the
> daughter of Severus and Lily Snape.

Potioncat now:
I didn't mean to get this carried away when I started in the earlier 
post. It was realising just how much LV and his DEs affected 
everyone. Just think, Moaning Myrtle would be an old woman rather 
than a girl-ghost.

Back to the above alternate future. The one where Tom Riddle was 
never born. I think it's more likely that Severus and Lily would 
continue a friendship---at least until she fell in love with James. 
So we'd more likely have the Harry Potter we know now, with whatever 
changes a happy-somewhat-spoiled childhood would give him. Professor 
Snape (DADA) probably still wouldn't like him. Harry is like James 
after all---and I think he'd be even more like James had he known him.

It would be Severus and Florence Snape--and their twins, Susan and 
Slyvie. (Thank goodness, got rid of that other ship!)

Potioncat, who likes this thread, but couldn't help getting silly.







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