GoF CH 27-29 Post DH look/ Snape and Harry redux

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 182206

Potioncat:
When I first set myself the task of working out what would happen if
Snape had not told LV the prophecy (using canon and interviews and
myths) I realized that Snape's running to LV, and his subsequent
remorse is what saved him. Had Snape not made that horrible decision
to tell LV the prophecy, he may not have had reason to back out and
reach a state of redemption. But if what you want is a happy
childhood for Harry,then LV has to be destroyed before Harry is born.
At least as best as I can work it out. And that would mean no
prophecy at all.

The only way I can work out that Snape wouldn't tell, would be if he
didn't hear it, or if he hadn't become a DE. I can't see why a DE
wouldn't tell.


Alla:

Yeah, LOL, subsequent saving of one Severus Snape versus happy 
childhood for Harry is really no brainer for me.

And yes, of course DE would tell, so, two choices I can see, killing 
Snape right here on the spot, yes, yes I know Dumbledore is too 
**noble** for that, LOL, or at least obliviating him and making sure 
that even alive he would never tell.

Why could not Dumbledore just do nice clean AK and no more Snape, 
eh?  I am joking of course.

Potioncat:
<SNIP>
OK, I don't think my view is the only one, I'm open to other
scenarios. But how about an explanation of how you think events would
have transpired to get the happier ending? (Or if I missed it
upthread, could you give a post number?)
<SNIP>

Alla:

Sure, but again, this is of course just a speculative ONE 
possibility. So, here we go. Snape does not tell Prophecy because he 
is either dead or obliviated, take your pick. So Voldemort never 
attacks prophecy couple. Yes, Peter is betraying the order with 
whatever information, but he is, I don't know caught in the act when 
he is meeting with the DE, OR say they are planning the operation and 
it goes badly, and they realize that Peter is the traitor, off to 
Azkaban with him.

There are casualties of course, but Lily and James already 
successfully defied Voldemort three times, so they are defying him 
again – once or twice and survive with Harry living with them and 
being just Harry.

The prophecy is spoken, yes, but as we know there are many prophecies 
kept in the Hall of prophecies in MoM and NOT all of them come true, 
so this one never does come true.

Correct me if I am wrong, but nowhere was it said that this is the 
ONLY way to defeat Voldemort, so really for all I care somebody else 
discovered and destroyed Horcruxes. Dumbledore did some of them, I do 
not see how the fact that he did not speak Parseltongue means ( as 
Carol speculated) that the diary could not have been destroyed.

Parseltongue ability is rare, but not non existent, no? So somebody 
else would have assisted in doing it. Who? Again, I do not know and 
do not think it matters. Because I do not believe we know that nobody 
else can speak that. The last known person was Voldie, but who is to 
say that he was the only one?

And speaking about Dumbledore inability to speak it, I may be wrong 
and not getting to HBP any time soon, again, on purpose, but didn't 
we suspect from one of the memories that he indeed may have known 
Parseltongue? Dumbledore I mean.

So, here is the rough speculative sketch of happier things for Harry 
as I see it.

Could this all gone worse? OF COURSE it could have, Lily and James 
could have been killed in the fight after all and Dumbledore dear 
would have managed Harry's fate as he deemed fit, but my point is it 
did not HAVE TO go worse, but Snape made sure that it did.


Potioncat:
<SNIP>
It would be Severus and Florence Snape--and their twins, Susan and 
Slyvie. (Thank goodness, got rid of that other ship!)


Alla:

Now here is the good match for Weasley Twins. I can just see it – 
Weasley/Snape family makes its entrance. MAHAHAHAHH.

JMO,

Alla.