GoF CH 27-29 Post DH look/ Snape and Harry redux

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 25 18:56:51 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 182259

Alla:
>
> If the only way of those countless others not to suffer means WW
> putting all their hopes in one boy and depending on him to save them
> and , then you are actually absolutely right, I could care less
about saving WW even if the price is the life of **only** one boy.

Pippin:
Oh! Oh! It's more like Snape <veg> -- It's nothing to her if countless
others die, as long as Dumbledore does all he can to save the one she
loves.

Dumbledore said that was "disgusting" <vveg>

Alla:

Really?  I thought it was nothing to Snape if baby and husband of 
woman he loves will die even if he will be the catalyst of their 
death. I know you are joking (or are you?) but I do not believe that 
saying that WW should do something to help Harry and being disgusted 
if they are not equals this in any way shape or form.

So, yeah, I agree what Snape did was disgusting. Turns out he quite 
happily could stomach baby's dying after all.

Pippin:
But I think Alla is vastly overestimating the odds of the Potters'
survival.

Odds of surviving being identified as part of the prophecy
3:1

Odds of surviving being identified in Moody's photograph
1:7

Basically, being in the Order was like seven people playing Russian
Roulette, only with six bullets in the revolver.

Alla:

Alla thinks again that she is not underestimating or overestimating 
anything. I think that the odds of Potters' survival EXISTED without 
Snape interference and NOT existed with his interference, if nothing 
else would have changed, as simple as that. I am not concerned with 
the numeric figures, although I thought it goes without saying that I 
do not count Harry as surviving the GH. Meaning that he could never 
be just Harry any more. Prophecy affected him and changed his life. I 
think I would say odds of survival are 3:0 ( metaphorically) and 4:7 
( is the number of original order members 7? – did not check, but I 
thought it was more), since I am totally counting those who survived 
first war.


Pippin:
<SNIP>
Biblical prophecies are seen as calls to hope and redemption rather
than predictions of certain doom. That might shed some light on why
Dumbledore did not try to prevent the prophecy from reaching
Voldemort. Voldemort could have repented like the King of Ninevah,
and turned himself and his people from their ways. Of course Voldemort
did not repent. But Snape did. <SNIP>

Alla:

I think you may be off to something here, I can totally see 
Dumbledore thinking it, although that was IMO silly of him to think. 
But I see the rationale.

JMO,

Alla






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