Peverells /green goo/ Basilisk Venom / Peter Pettigrew

[Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)]

No: HPFGUIDX 182323

Catlady (me) wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/182223>:

<< It seems that Herself chose the names of the Peverell brothers,
Antioch, Cadmus, and Ignotus, for their initial letters, in which I is
the straight line representing the wand, A is the triangle
representing the cloak, and C is the circle representing the stone,
adding up to that symbol. >>

To which Carol replied in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/182235>:

<< Interesting! I don't recall reading that, but it makes sense. Do
you have a link to an interview where she said that? >>

Oh! Sorry. I should have specified that that is an idea that occurred
to me while reading rather than something indicated by Herself.

Carol wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/182262>:

<< And he would have needed a House-Elf to go with him to the cave
and get him home after he had drunk the potion (unlike LV, DD would
not have made the House-Elf do it). Without Snape, I'm not sure that
DD could have been saved from that little adventure. >>

DD had access to plenty of House Elves at Hogwarts even if he didn't
have any House Elves from an old family estate. Which leads me to
wonder about the very powerful magic that House Elves have; we heard
about it when Kreachur, poisoned as he was, Apparated or something
home from the Inferi lake, just because his master had ordered him to
return  home. Would a House Elf be able to hand Master a goblet of
cure for that poison if Master just ordered him to 'Give me a potion
to cure me!'

Would a House Elf be able to obey an order to 'Bring me all of LV's
Horcruxes' if the person giving the order didn't know even how many
there were?

Carol wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/182248>:

<< (The only reason that the Sword of Gryffindor could destroy the
Horcruxes was that, because of Harry, it had absorbed Basilisk venom.) >>

My memory is dreadful. I thought the Sword of Gryffindor could destroy
Horcruxes because it was a powerful magical artifact (so presumably
the Goblet of Fire also could have destroyed Horcruxes). In fact, I
even thought the Basilisk fangs could destroy Horcruxes because they
were pointy things from a magical beast, not because of the venom.
Please remind of the canon about the necessity of Basilisk venom.

Carol wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/182277>:

<< Granted, a Basilisk existed whose venom could be used to destroy
the Horcruxes even after it was dead, but only Harry, a Parselmouth,
had access to it >>

I feel certain that if Basilisk venom isn't sold in the apothecary
shop in Diagon Alley, it's sold in the apothecary shop in Knockturn
Alley. Y'know, along with the intact human fingernails... 

Magpie wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/182316>:

<< However hard you imagine it is to get the venom of a basilisk, it
sounds like just the type of thing that would be sold in Knockturn
Alley to me. >>

Kudos to Magpie for saying it before me.

Carol wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/182315>:

<< Because you have to be a Parselmouth to control one, so only a
Parselmouth would hatch one (unless the Dark Wizard doing so wanted to
be killed by his own creation). >>

You have to be a Parselmouth to direct a Basilisk to go lurk outside
the library and kill everyone who exits. You have to be a Parselmouth
to direct a Basilisk NOT to kill Pansy Parkinson while out on a
killing spree.

You don't have to be a Parselmouth to keep your Basilisk confined in a
cage from which it can't escape, keeping it blindfolded or having
blinded it (poor snake) or enclosing the cage with opaque walls to
protect everyone from its deadly gaze, and using other precautions.
For example, it might be kept under the Imperius Curse. If a
dragon-sized Basilisk is as resistant to spells as a dragon, then a
young = small Basilisk might need only one wizard, maybe two, to put
it under. And kill the poor thing before it gets too large for its cage.

Canon has shown wizards and witches waving their wands and things
appear, like squashy purple sleeping bags, chairs, and plates of
sandwiches. Whether they Transfigured those things out of thin air or
transported them from a storage space, the cage can be completely free
of escape routes if food and air are teleported in and waste and venom
are teleported out. I imagine teleporting in a big rag cloth doll for
the basilisk to bite and then teleporting the doll out of the cage
into a venom extraction cauldron...

Carol wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/182321>:

<< who thinks that Horcruxes are no more a part of the average
Wizard's world than necrophilia is part of yours and mine >>

Yeah, we all know the word, and most of us are able to get books with
more information about it, and nowdays I'm sure there are also videos
available to those who seek them out. There were bookstores, and
printed indexes like BOOKS IN PRINT, before there was an Internet to
make research easy.

Pippin wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/182258>:

<< If Peter Pettigrew had been warned that his return would bring
Voldemort back to power, would he still have gone back? >>

Why would Pettigrew have sought out Voldemort after PoA unless
Pettigrew thought Voldemort might return to power? If he thought that
Voldemort was likely to remain a disembodied disgusto hiding in
Albania, what was in it for him? He would be better off as a pet rat
of another wizarding family, given plenty of food and comfortable
shelter, just as long as he wasn't seen by anyone who recognized him
as Scabbers and knew that Scabbers was a Wanted Man. Rat. Whatever.

If he thought that Voldemort would become and stay a malign fetus,
constantly dependent on Pettigrew but constantly threatening
Pettigrew, he would have been better off living with the regular rats
in the subway tunnels!

How scared must he have been of Sirius and Remus to seek to restore LV
to power just so LV could protect Wormtail against them? I mean,
surely he knew that working for LV wasn't all fun and games!

Julie wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/182268>:

<< only Peter never ONCE acted for the good of someone besides
himself, and never repented his evil actions.  >>

I suppose frequently acting for the good of LV, and once biting
Goyle's finger in defense of Ron's candy don't count as acting for the
good of someone besides himself. He once started to repent his evil
intention of killing the person who had saved his life (Harry) and
that silver hand killed him for it.