OOP Chapter 6-8 post DH look

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No: HPFGUIDX 182827

Bex:
Well, Regulus died before Sirius was thrown into Azkaban, but after
Sirius had left the house. Perhaps he heard word through other members
of the family? I see this quote as Sirius heard Regulus had joined the
DE's, then found out he died, and filled in the blanks himself - I
don't think he got any details. Methinks Sirius is superimposing his
impressions of Regulus as a child on the events to get to this 
assumption.
<SNIP>

Alla:

I am not sure I agree with that, meaning that I am not sure that 
Sirius would just fill in the details by picturing the story that 
never happened, you know? He may as well picture something else, why 
this particular scenario?

zanooda:
<SNIP>
But this story is not true - I mean, Regulus was not killed by the
DEs, right? So it's not like someone who really knew what happened
told Sirius. No one knew the truth except for Kreacher, and Kreacher
didn't tell anybody.
<SNIP>
Anyway, you are right that it would be interesting to find out the
whole story. I would like to think that it was Snape who told DD, and
DD told Sirius, but unfortunately, Snape wasn't yet on our side when
Regulus died ;-(.


Alla:

Well of course it is not true that is why it is so interesting for me 
to find out, who had such overactive imagination to come up with 
story of Regulus' death, which is so false except change of heart 
part, you know?

You mean Snape told Dumbledore this lie? Or you mean Snape told 
Dumbledore the truth and Dumbledore told Sirius a lie? Not that I put 
past Dumbledore telling Sirius a lie, it is not like he did not do 
much worst things to him (strictly my opinion of course), but why? 
For what purpose?

Carol:
<SNIP>
Or young Snape could have told DD about Regulus's change of heart
(assuming that Regulus made it known to anyone, which he may not have
had time or reason to do)) and informed DD of it, indicating that he
disappeared afterward and was presumed dead. DD might have wondered
why Reggie didn't show up for his last year of school. <SNIP>

Alla:

So Snape told DD about change of heart part, although I would still 
wonder how it got to Snape, but how did the story acquired a 
different ending? Who told whom about trying to get out part and 
where did "steal the horcrux to save house elf" part go?



Mike:
I think the whole Regulus backing out story must have come from his
parents, or at least Walburga. Sirius was aware that his parents
became disillusioned with LV after an initial period of sympathy to
the cause. "They got cold feet when they saw what [LV] was prepared
to do to get power, though." <OotP, p.112, US> How did Sirius know
that, unless he had *some* sort of contact with his parents after he
left home? <SNIP>

Alla:

I do not know Mike, what you just wrote makes perfect sense to me on 
one hand, since parents must have at least knew that Regulus did not 
want to do it anymore, but on the other hand, if Sirius was in 
contact with them, wouldn't the portrait at least had some kind words 
to say about him?

I mean, seriously he not just had a row with his parents, he left the 
house, I would imagine that getting in touch with them would require 
some reconciliation before they ever speak to each other?

And even if Sirius was in contact with other family members and 
learned from them, would those family members go to the house at all?

Mike:
<SNIP>
The rest of it, the part about Reg being killed by DEs, was obvious
conjecture on Sirius's part by the way it was phrased. We didn't need
to learn the truth two books later to know that Sirius didn't really
know why his brother was dead or how he died.

Alla:

See I did not read it as conjecture, but as hearing it from somebody, 
but you are probably right.