[HPforGrownups] Did Harry Notice?

k12listmomma k12listmomma at comcast.net
Sun May 11 20:50:45 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 182860

From: "Mike" <mcrudele78 at yahoo.com>

> "... pulled out the wand beneath his cloak and pointed it at the
> door, which burst open."
> "He was over the threshold as James came sprinting into the hall. It
> was easy, too easy, he had not even picked up his wand...."
> ....
> Hold him off, without a wand in his hand!..."
> ....
> "She had no wand upon her either.... How stupid they were, and how
> trusting, thinking that their safety lay in friends, that weapons
> could be discarded even for moments...."
> <DH pp. 343-4, US Ed.>
>
> So maybe JKR wanted to make a point; James and Lily were *too*
> trusting of friendship, loyalty, courage, and those things that they
> themselves  seemed to be born with. Was this a logical way to make
> that point? IMO, no.
>
> I can't see James, who moments before was entertaining Harry with his
> wand and had just dropped it on the sofa he was sitting on, respond
> to the door bursting open without snatching up his wand. This makes
> no sense for a 21-year-old wizard that was raised in the wizarding
> world. Lily, taking Harry up for bed, yeah I could see her not taking
> care to have her wand on her. But not James. This took me right out
> of the story, especially since I knew for the most part what was
> going to happen from then on.
>
> After the things Voldemort had told Harry about his dad in PS/SS and
> in the graveyard of GoF, we and Harry were under the impression that
> James had put up a *good* fight, or at least had represented himself
> well. I don't see how standing in front of Voldemort, wandless,
> waiting to be AKed can be construed, as Voldemort himself said in
> PS: "Yes, boy, your parents were brave... I killed your father first,
> and he put up a courageous fight..." <SS p.294, US> OK, brave, umm
> yeah, I can see that. A kind of thoughtless bravery. But "put up a
> courageous fight"? How? With what?
>
> But that wasn't my question, was it? Did Harry notice?

Shelley now:

See, for me, this is Rowling AGAIN not checking what she had written 
earlier. Harry didn't notice the inconsistency, because ROWLING didn't 
notice the inconsistency!!! She can't have her character recognize a mistake 
that the author didn't realize she was penning.

I think she really did mean for James to put up a fight. All the earlier 
books, before DH, indicate that he did. But, when Rowling got to write that 
part in DH, she forgot to add in those details. That's my take on this. At 
least in my mind, James did put a valiant fight, and I will blatentently 
disregard James being wandless in DH before LV killed him. I think she 
indended him to be wanded all along, and vocally telling LV off before he 
was killed. 





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