20 to 1 / Luna / An Animagus here, and an Animagus there, ee-eye-ee-eye-oh

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 182864

Catlady: 
> If the Order being outnumbered 20 to 1 included opponents acting 
under
> Imperius as well as voluntary Death Eaters, I'd think 420 seemed a 
bit
> too *small*, not too large. 

Alla:

Well, yeah, I am sorry for being unclear, but I definitely question 
the correlation 20 to 1 **together** with how many members of the 
order we seem to have.

Those *both* numbers produce to me unbelievably large army of DE, and 
I see no sign of it anywhere in canon.

Catlady:
And the people who were under Imperius in
> the first war would be no more likely to flock to LV's banner in the
> second war than any average wizard. 

Alla:

Indeed, if they were truly under Imperius that would mean that they 
would have no wish to return. The thing is, do we see such people in 
canon? I mean of course we see putting people under Imperius, but do 
we see a character who is shown to be put under Imperius in first war 
and would not want to be associated with DE at all.

We see Luicus dear claiming that he was under Imperius, sure, but I 
don't know about you, but I really really do not believe him. We hear 
that other people **claimed** to be under Imperius, but IMO if the 
only example was Lucius, the author means to show ( not that we have 
to agree with author of course, I definitely do not always do, but in 
this situation I am sort of arguing that what author meant to show 
means no sense to me) that all those others also lied just as Lucius 
did.


So, what I am trying to say is that if my premise is correct and all 
those people were not under Imperius, I see no reason for them not to 
return.

Catlady:
>Once the Ministry fell in the
> second war, there were surely more than 420 people who would have at
> least reported any Undesirable they saw.
<SNIP>


Alla:

Hmmm, I do not know if I agree. I saw plenty scared people, I did not 
see signs that many were helping Voldemort, although even if you are 
right, being eager to commit one cowardly act to me does not make one 
DE yet. Although of course the potential will be there.

JMO,

Alla