OOP Chapters 11-13 Post DH look
sistermagpie
sistermagpie at earthlink.net
Sat May 24 20:45:24 UTC 2008
No: HPFGUIDX 183014
> Carol responds:
> I can't imagine any reader not sharing that feeling. Unlike Snape, who
> triggers a range of emotions and responses, Umbridge is set up to be
> loathed (or to inspire "umbrage" in the reader, along with "dolor" in
> the students). I may be the only one who sees this in her, but, to me,
> she symbolizes "teaching to the test" and other government-inspired
> "improvements" to education. Of course, I may be wrongly applying the
> inadequacies of the American educational system to those in Britain.
> (Obviously, this is the wrong forum for discussing that topic.)
Magpie:
I don't know if "teaching to the test" is a problem in the UK, but
regardless, she's not doing that. The tests are OWLS and she's refusing
to teach them the practical stuff they need for them. That's why
Hermione tells the other kids they need a study group.
In general I think she's a combination of contradictory things. We know
she wants to control the school, but the teachers who are in danger
from her are the two who would get in trouble under honest evaluators
anyway. Both teachers who are there due to their personal relationship
to Dumbledore. Even Harry criticizes them as teachers. We know that
Umbridge isn't really wanting the best teachers here--she wants people
who uphold her agenda. But she doesn't seem to be able to attack the
better teachers the same way (even the one of a different species,
Firenze).
It seems like any interference in school is the problem--but I think
that's assuming we're talking about Dumbledore's school. The idea that
Umbridge is pushing an agenda rather than wanting what's best for the
students is undercut by the fact that Dumbledore's all about his own
agenda just as much. So it's kind of a mishmosh imo that comes down to
Umbridge being mean to the people on Dumbledore's team and liking the
people not on his team.
-m
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