CHAPDISC: DH33, The Prince's Tale

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No: HPFGUIDX 184843

> Leah: <SNIP> And she's 
> completely taken up with the Marauder version,'James Potter saved 
> your life...', and leaps to the defence of Potter and his mates.  

Alla:

And James Potter did not save his life?

 
> Leah: He breaks curfew, granted. However, he doesn't encourage 
> someone to betray Dumbledore's trust by leaving the Shrieking 
Shack, 
> he doesn't take a werewolf around local houses, having a few 'near 
> misses' and he doesn't entrap someone into nearly getting killed or 
> turned by a werewolf.  

Alla:

No, he only wants to find what those Gryfs are up to despite knowing 
that Madame Pomfrey takes Lupin there, meaning he knows that teachers 
are aware and it is clearly none of his business IMO.

Entrap someone of course meaning telling somebody how to open the 
door somewhere that someone wanted to go long time ago, no? I always 
wonder when people call what Sirius did entrapment, because in my 
mind entraping somebody means something 
different. He told Snape how to get there, that is all he did, didn't 
he? Everything else was Snape's going there. 



> Leah: She's actually given up on the friendship in her own mind 
> before the 
> werewolf prank.  If you knew that your friend, let alone your best 
> friend, had been saved from some serious danger, you might make 
some 
> attempt to talk to them about it. Lily clearly hasn't. Her comment 
> in the 'apology' scene, 'my friends wonder...', not 'my other 
> friends' is another indicator.

Alla:

We do not know what is on her mind. I completely disagree that she 
gave up on friendship before that. She knows that Snape is her 
friend, I think it would be just awkward prose to say my other 
friends, IMO of course.

Lea:
 I'm not saying that Lily has to 
> remain friends with Severus; even without all the House pressures 
> etc, a lot of childhood friendships break down in the teenage 
years. 
> All the indications are that instead of just telling him she was no 
> longer interested, she continued to let him trail after her until 
> the mudblood comment allowed to her to be in the right when she 
> ended the relationship.   

Alla:

IMO word mudblood did it and the fact that Lily heard him calling 
somebody else that word. As I wrote before, if somebody called me 
**once** what I consider to be equivalent of this word, trust me, 
this person would have been my friend no more, that how much this 
word symbolises in my mind. I do blame Lily if she heard it before 
even in relation to somebody else and did not give Snape a harshest 
lecture ever, I do. But I guess she thought that he would never do 
that to her, which is in my mind a bit selfish, but well, if she 
indeed valued his friendship, understandable to me.


 
>> Leah: Quite possibly, you're right and Snape was Voldy's number 
one 
> fan until Lily was endangered.  Quite possibly, he wanted out 
before 
> that, but you joined for life, as Sirius points out and Karkaroff 
> illustrates. <SNIP>

Alla:

IMO he still should have tried to quit, if he wanted to.