CHAPDISC: DH33, The Prince's Tale

[sistermagpie]

No: HPFGUIDX 184856

> Alla:
> 
> Okay. For my part, I hold Sirius responsible for unethical, stupid, 
> irresponsible behavior towards Remus. I am sure he wanted Snape 
> getting a werewolf scare, however, when Snape is being portrayed as 
> the victim of entrapment or trickery, I disagree with that. I do 
not 
> see how Sirius entrapped or tricked him.

Magpie:
That's what I came away thinking too, after DH. Originally I thought 
the point was that Snape knew that MWPP were doing something with the 
willow, and he probably thought they were just sneaking out or had 
some special secret--something that was obviously not dangerous or 
they wouldn't be doing it and living.

In DH Lily talks about Snape's "theory" of Lupin being a werewolf in 
a way that either means Snape floated it as a theory *after* the 
Prank or before. Him saying it after the Prank doesn't make a lot of 
sense because the whole point is that he can't tell her (for whatever 
reason) the truth, that he *knows* Lupin is a werewolf. It seems 
weird that he's taken this point to tell her that Lupin is a werewolf 
only change it to a theory so that he isn't exactly revealing the 
truth.

My impression was that Snape had already had this theory and Lily had 
heard it many times in the past. So Sirius had told Snape how get 
into the willow in order to see the werewolf. This is sounding less 
and less like a Prank at all and more just like straight giving Snape 
enough rope to hang himself. Sirius betrayed Remus by giving away the 
secret but if Snape was going into the willow to see the werewolf 
Sirius was being completely straightforward with him. 

Sirius is still doing something stupid and he still would have some 
responsibility if Snape were killed or turned because he helped him 
along. But he wouldn't have the kind of responsibility that he seemed 
to have in the past, where he tricked Snape. Snape's got pretty much 
100% responsibility now for his own actions. It was still wrong of 
Sirius to help Snape do something stupid himself but Snape was 
knowingly doing something stupid.

Alla:
However again, holding him responsible for 
> unethical behavior to me is way  different then holding him 
> responsible for entrapping Snape.

Magpie:
That's the distinction I would make as well after DH. Snape comes out 
looking all the more unreasonable being angry about it all those 
years later.

-m