Prank WAS :Re: CHAPDISC: DH33, The Prince's Tale

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 184882

> Pippin:
<SNIP>
> Officially, Snape had only been warned about the dangers of the 
willow
> itself -- and Sirius  told him how to get past it. No authority had
> warned Snape that he was in danger of meeting a full grown werewolf,
> unrestrained or, as Dumbledore might put it, a sudden and painful
> death. Snape had only his own judgment about the likelihood of 
meeting
> something he couldn't handle in the tunnel, and Sirius expected and
> hoped that it wouldn't be enough to discourage him. 

Alla:

Eh, well of course if one is not convinced that Snape figured out 
whom he will be meeting there, of course then Sirius' part of blame 
grows significantly. I personally have no doubt that Snape figured it 
out and it really does not matter to me that he figured it out by 
himself or from officials.


Pippin: 
> Of course Sirius was a teen and  didn't think it through, and I am 
not
> saying he should have been expelled or sent to Azkaban. But he was 
old
> enough, IMO, to recognize that we have, as human beings, a moral
> responsibility not to tempt others.
> 
> That Snape was already tempted is beside the point, IMO.

Alla:

Sirius had moral responsibility not to tempt Snape, but the fact that 
Snape already wanted to go there is **beside the point**? I do not 
know how to respond to it.


Pippin: 
<SNIP>
 It seems to me if we are going
> to take a charitable view of Sirius, and say that he was in part
> trying to protect his friends, we might be charitable towards Snape 
also. 

Alla:

Huh? Could you please just point out to me where I am taking 
charitable view towards Sirius and saying that he was in part 
protecting his friends? In fact I seemed to repeat several times that 
he in my view was doing the exact opposite to protecting his friend, 
basically betraying him.

I also said that after book 7 I cannot disprove in theory that Sirius 
wanted to kill Snape, even though I do not believe it and I do not 
think that his actions transform into it.

What I **am** doing it seems to me is taking much harsher view 
towards Snape and not absolving him of blame, because he poor dear 
was tricked or entrapped, or being sent there. That I just cannot see 
no matter how hard I look.

Snape hanged himself as far as I am concerned. He had higher than 
normal mental capacities, he as far as I am concerned knew or 
suspected that there is a werewolf there, he was a self proclaimed 
DADA genuis, he read that lovely werewolf essay. And he went there 
anyways.

Nope, in my opinion all of that is not besides the point at all.

JMO,

Alla