Prank WAS :Re: CHAPDISC: DH33, The Prince's Tale

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No: HPFGUIDX 184884

> Pippin:
> It makes a difference to me, because Snape was not disregarding an
> adult's authority, he was only disregarding his own. Snape is not
> responsible for knowing that there is a werewolf under the willow,
> even if he's figured it out. 

Alla:

How did we switch the conversation from whether Snape was entrapped, 
tricked, being sent to the Shack to whether Snape is responsible to 
disregarding the authority? Very confused. 
However, Snape was warned about danger and not going there, albeit in 
general terms, he still went, did he not?

But sure, he was not told that there is a werewolf there, I agree 
with you on that and he was not disregarding any warnings from 
authority that there is  werewolf there, since there were no such 
warnings.

 
> > Alla:
> > 
> > Sirius had moral responsibility not to tempt Snape, but the fact
> that  Snape already wanted to go there is **beside the point**? I do
> not  know how to respond to it.
> 
> Pippin:
<SNIP>
That the kid wanted to
> get into the liquor cabinet already and should have known better 
than
> to drink and drive does not make me less culpable, IMO.

Alla:

If you were the same age as that kid, IMO it does.


> 
> 
> > Alla:
> > 
> > Huh? Could you please just point out to me where I am taking 
> > charitable view towards Sirius and saying that he was in part 
> > protecting his friends? 
> 
> Pippin:
> Didn't you say that Sirius didn't have to let his friends get 
caught?

Alla:

Not that I remember, no.
 
> Alla:
> > 
> > Snape hanged himself as far as I am concerned. He had higher than 
> > normal mental capacities, he as far as I am concerned knew or 
> > suspected that there is a werewolf there, he was a self 
proclaimed 
> > DADA genuis, he read that lovely werewolf essay. And he went 
there 
> > anyways.
> >
> 
> Pippin:
> He's still only sixteen or so. Just because, intellectually, he 
knows
> how dangerous werewolves are doesn't mean that he is going to be
> appropriately cautious. It's not the nature of a sixteen year old to
> be appropriately cautious. Sirius, of all people, knew that very 
well.

Alla:

Hm. So Snape is to be held as the person with diminished mental 
capacities, but Sirius is to be held as the person who knows full 
well that other teenager will not be appropriately cautious?

Sorry, I disagree. 

Alla, counts to five and dissappears again. Boy, second day in a row 
I am posting five. It looks like Prank will always be one of the 
hottest topics ever for us :)