Prank WAS: Re: CHAPDISC: DH33, The Prince's Tale

Carol justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Sun Nov 16 20:27:21 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 184911

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214"
<dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:
>
> Carol:
> <HUGE SNIP>
> Nope. He knows that they can get safely in to see what he's pretty
> sure is a werewolf, and if they can do it, so can he, or so he would
> think.
> <SNIP>
> 
> Alla:
> So, Snape does not know why they are safe, but according to your 
> argument  he will assume that whatever keeps them safe will keep him 
> safe as well? Why would he ever do it if he is so good at DADA and he 
> has no idea what exactly makes him safe? What a stupid assumption to 
> make in my view.

Carol responds:
Stupid, maybe. But he invents his own spells, and he knows they're no
better at DADA than he is. He has no way of knowing or even guessing
that it isn't DADA but an illegal form of Transfiguration that
protects them.

There's a great deal of stupidity on both sides by *two*
sixteen-year-old boys, one of whom endangers himself, the other of
whom provides the means for him to do so at no risk to himself (other
than expulsion or imprisonment if the other boy is killed. As I said
in my previous post, he provided a way *in* to the death trap but no
way out. And, as someone else noted, it *would* have been a Death
Trap--a teenage boy, no matter how talented, trapped with a maddened
werewolf who would not stop with a single bite.
> 

Carol:
> <HUGE SNIP>
> Carol, who doubts that Severus was suicidal at the time of the
so-called Prank, as he would have to be to enter the Shack thinking
he'd encounter an unrestrained werewolf
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Um, if he enters Shack not knowing what exactly keeps Marauders
safe, then yes, it seems to me that he is looking for certain death OR
he is so arrogant that despite not knowing why Marauders hang out with
werewolf and lived, he thinks he has his own methods for keeping 
werewolf in check.

Carol:
But since when is arrogance a crime worthy of death? The Marauders, or
at any rate, Sirius and James, were at least as arrogant. Just ask
Lily. Severus *knew* he was talented. Of course, he would think that
if they could do it, he could. That's typical teenage boy thinking.
(They all have an incompletely developed cerebral cortex, so I've
heard, which would partially explain, if not excuse, the behavior of
both Severus and Sirius here. :-) To be fair, so do teenage girls
though the risks they take are different.)
> 
Carol earlier:
> <SNIP>
> Carol, who thinks that Sirius and James deserved to be expelled for
running with a werewolf and that Sirius deserved it yet again for
nearly getting a classmate killed.
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Yeah, see if you would have said that Sirius deserved to be expelled 
> for giving information to the classmate, I certainly agree that he 
> deserved at least some punishment. But **nearly getting classmate 
> killed**? That is my principal objection basically.

Carol:
How about "Would have deserved expulsion if his classmate had been
bitten or killed"?

Carol, thanking Alla for ignoring all the typos in her earlier post
and promising to proofread the next one more carefully





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