Headmaster for a day (was Prank WAS :Re: CHAPDISC: DH33, The Princ
Carol
justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 19 17:52:50 UTC 2008
No: HPFGUIDX 184955
Carol earlier:
> >
> > He didn't trick him into going, true, but he did *entice* him.
(It's rather like the Weasley Twins enticing Dudley with the
Ton-Tongue Toffee, which they knew Dudley would eat. Otherwise,
where's the "fun"?
>
> Magpie:
> The twins enticed Dudley, but Sirius did not, imo, entice Snape
since Snape needed no enticing. The sweet was left on the floor and
introduced into the situation by the twins, and Dudley did not know
what it was. Snape was enticed by the situation in general and knew
there was a werewolf. This is more like if Dudley said, "I hear you
have sweets that make your tongue swell up the size of a killer whale.
I want to try one of those." He would of course be assuming that the
experience wouldn't be upsetting. And the twins said, "Okay, here's
one we made."
>
> It's still wrong of the twins to take advantage of Dudley's naivite
and not tell him that it will probably be far worse for him as a
Muggle than it would be for a Wizard. But what the Twins actually did
in that scene is what we *thought* Sirius did before, where Snape's
ignorance approached Dudley's and Sirius seemed to be actively
deceiving and enticing Snape instead of just passively letting him do
something he had good reason to think he would regret no matter how
much he claimed to want it now. (And even helping him do it.) Still
being a jerk, but it's no longer a trick.
Carol responds:
He *suspected* there was a werewolf, but he didn't know it was loose
or how to escape it. He didn't know the full extent of his danger, any
more than Dudley (who knew the sweet was dropped by Wizards and had
suffered from Wizard magic before) did. Sirius knew he was withholding
the key information--how he and his friends escaped--and that Severus
could *not* escape as they did.
You don't give someone information that could lead to their death,
*especially* knowing that the person will act on it, without being
morally responsible for the consequences. Severus acted on incomplete
information and endangered only himself. Sirius had complete
information, some of which he withheld, and endangered another person.
He is obviously, IMO, the more guilty of the two. Had Severus
attempted to endanger or entice him in return, it would be another matter.
It seems that we disagree, permanently and irrevocably.
Carol, setting down her ping-pong paddle without having changed her mind
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