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dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 19 18:51:38 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 184956

> Magpie:
<SNIP>
> It's wrong, and if Snape had died he would have had some 
> responsibility, but it's not tricking him. Snape has good reason to 
> think that Sirius may have wanted him dead after that, but making 
it 
> into attempted murder seems like a blatant attempt to gloss over 
his 
> own behavior, which I think is the thing that most rankles him. The 
> reason he can't forgive Sirius is, I think, not that he tried to 
kill 
> him, which has some dignity, but that he can't accept and forgive 
> himself for his own foolishness which led to having to be rescued 
by 
> James. It's the humiliation, not the danger. 

Alla:

Agreed.

> 
>> > Montavilla47:
> > See, I don't think it really matters whether or not Sirius 
intended 
> to
> > kill Snape.  I always knew that that was exaggeration on the part 
of
> > Snape.  The thing isn't that Sirius actively intended harm, it's 
> that 
> > he was either a) too rash and stupid to even consider what might
> > happen or b) so indifferent for the safety of others that he 
didn't 
> > *care* whether or not Snape got killed (let alone what might 
happen
> > to Lupin), or c) both.
> 
> Magpie:
> Right, which is a find reason for Snape to hate Sirius or for 
plenty 
> of other people to dislike Sirius. But it's not a trick or murder.

Alla:

Right, and to try and to make my post not be a complete me too, I 
also agree with Montavilla that it does not really matter whether 
Sirius intended to kill Snape. The thing that matters to me for this 
argument is whether his **actions** can be viewed as attempt to kill 
Snape and my answer to it is no. And sure, yes, I agree that it can 
be any of three things you described.

And yes, Leah, I totally agree that if Sirius intended to kill Snape, 
no actions of Snape would change Sirius' **intention**. What I 
disagree with you is that I think that Snape's actions  and knowledge 
change how I view Sirius' **actions** and what I am blaming Sirius 
for and what not.

In short, for all I know when Sirius gave Snape this information, he 
was thinking OMG, I so so hope that this greasy git will go there and 
never comes back alive. However, even if Sirius was thinking it, 
which I do not believe he was, but it is of course possible, Sirus' 
thinking it to me does not translate in him being blamed for murder 
attempt. For all he knew Snape would take this information and will 
go to bed sleeping peacefully. 

JMO,

Alla






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