Headmaster for a day (was Prank WAS :Re: CHAPDISC: DH33, The Princ

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No: HPFGUIDX 184968

> 
> Potioncat:
> It seems Snape's mission to protect Lily's son just barely kept him 
> alive. He wears black and lives in a dungeon two-- big hints that 
he 
> was in mourning and imprisoned emotionally. His occupation--perhaps 
not 
> one he would have chosen--kept him out of the world most of the 
year. 
> But even if he had the inclination to move about among people, who 
> could he befriend? 

Alla:

Hogwarts stuff maybe? I mean, you think that had he made some effort 
to be not even nicer, I do not know, polite to other teachers, they 
would not have reciprocated?

Potioncat:
> If he understood all along that one day he would have to 
convencingly 
> present himself as loyal to LV-- then he couldn't risk forming 
> friendships or attachments to anyone who wasn't a LV follower. His 
> (future) position as a DE would put them at risk, and possibly put 
him 
> in a position similar to the one with Charity. 

Alla:

Why? Who says that to be loyal to Voldemort he has to present himself 
as loner? He can always IMO say later that I was just pretending to 
be loyal to those people to spy for you my lord. I mean, Lucius 
Malfoy for example have not decide to behave like Snape and 
maintained contacts even with people he despised, did he not?

What I am saying is that IMO the way Snape chose to behave has 
nothing to do with him thinking ahead about him being a spy and all 
to do with his character disposition.

I mean, I agree that he was mourning, but again, I do not believe 
that anybody but himself made him behave to other people as he did.

Potioncat: 
> It appears he maintained his connections to the Malfoys, but not to 
> many (any?) of the other DEs...no one in the DE camp seemed to 
trust 
> him.

Alla:

And that did not seem very smart to me IMO.

Potioncat: 
> His situation wasn't as bad as Sirius's, but it was similar. He was 
> alone, even among others.

Alla:

Um, I am glad that we at least agree that his situation was not as 
bad as Sirius'. But I can see similarities only in a very, very, very 
distant way, in their mindsets in a way. Sleeping in your own bed 
behind Hogwarts walls, eating three meals a day and sleeping under 
Dementors watch for twelve years? Sorry I strongly disagree. I mean, 
I guess I understand what you are saying him being alone among many 
others, but to me the crucial difference is that Snape and only Snape 
chose that behaviour for himself and could have abandoned it any time 
and Sirius could not leave his prison without doing what he did.

Snape put himself in his mental prison and somebody else put Sirius 
in a very real prison.

Potioncat:
>If the Potters had lived, both Sirius and 
> Severus would have had the chance to actually grow up.

Alla:

True.

Potioncat:
>Had Lily lived, 
> Severus would have gotten over her.

Alla:

Not so sure about that I am.