Sirius and Snape parallels again

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No: HPFGUIDX 184980

> lizzyben:
> 
> I have a somewhat-predictable take on the matter: Blame Dumbledore.

Alla:

Heh.

Lizzyben:
> Both Sirius & Snape are put into a kind of prison by Dumbledore,
> physical and mental, which they cannot leave. Sirius is forced to 
stay
> by his loyalty to the Order & James, & Snape by his guilt & love for
> Lily. DD uses these emotions to manipulate both to accomplish his
> purposes.

Alla:

Yes.

Lizzyben: 
> And there's no question that Azkaban is worse than Hogwarts. But I
> think it's interesting that Sirius actually came out of Azkaban 
pretty
> well, all things considered. He was sharp, funny, goal-oriented &
> energetic, even when eating rats in a cave. It was only after being
> imprisioned by DD in GP that Sirius begins to deteriorate rapidly
> mentally. 


Alla:

Small disagreement, I do not think that he emerged from Azkaban well 
at all, I think he seems to be recovered well enough in GoF, but to 
me it shows that having people around whom heloves helped him that 
much. However, sure I agree that he could not take GP at all. And I 
agree with almost everything I snipped.

Lizzyben:
> And the pattern all traces back to the first thread - There's a
> traumatized, emotionally damaged sister who needs DD's care
> & protection... why don't we imprison her in the family house & hide
> her away from sight so I can get on w/my grand plans? This is what 
DD
> does - it's his psychic trauma that he re-enacts upon all those who
> surround & follow him. Because DD is ultimately the one imprisoned,
> trapped w/his past memories, regrets, & griefs in a mental prison of
> his own making. 

Alla:

Eh, please do not be shocked, but I think it is a brilliant 
observation. But then I am left with a thought - sure, I can pity 
somebody like Dumbledore, but I cannot help but think that we are 
supposed not just pity but admire him and well, I am not sure what is 
to admire. Especially since I do not think that we even hear the 
apology for that thing he was doing to people around him. In fact I 
am pretty sure we are not.

Alla