Sirius and Snape parallels again
lizzyben04
lizzyben04 at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 26 01:59:19 UTC 2008
No: HPFGUIDX 185011
> jkoney
> While I agree with the first part I don't believe that DD imprisoned
> them in the home of their youth.
>
> Physically Snape stays at Spinners End, but he seems to have adjusted
> to the place quite well. As for being locked in the memory of Lilly
> that was his own free will. ... <snip> For Sirius the house was also
a place where he was free from being
> chased or killed. He might not be able to leave, but he was able to
> work on the plans for the Order. He was able to receive messages,
> etc. from members and contribute in some way. Unfortunately for
> Sirius he was an active person and staying in the same place wasn't
> the best use of his abilities. But it did keep him safe.
lizzyben:
It did keep him safe, until he died quickly thereafter. I was mostly
referring to Snape being imprisoned at Hogwarts, which as Harry says,
was his real childhood home. And yes, technically Snape could've left
at any time & gone to teach at Durmstrang, or Sirius could've left GP
& lived on the run again. But, based on their temperaments & past,
they could not escape & were locked in place just as surely as if DD
held the key.
He did hold the key, in that DD knew the emotional "hook" that he
could use to transform people into pawns. For both Snape & Sirius,
that "hook" was Harry. As you say, DD "prodded" Snape into staying to
protect Harry based on his guilt over Lily's death. He also made
Sirius stay at GP because of Sirius' guilt over James & loyalty to
Harry. Neither one could leave, because both were emotionally "hooked"
into becoming prisoners & pawns in DD's game.
Leah: Yes, when you put in like that...And don't forget Lupin. There
was a boy, damaged by an attack when young, whom Dumbledore thought
he
could keep safe in a 'haunted' house. No wonder Dumbledore is so
fond of
(knitting) patterns.
lizzyben:
The more I think of it, the more certain I am that it was the same
exact house. There's no mention of the DD's selling it after Ariana's
death & DD still probably had ownership of the family home. So of
course that's the first place he would think of to hide James & Lily.
Lupin is another clear example. I think DD's plan went a little
awry there, though, because Lupin had another support system outside
of DD in the Marauders. So DD imprisoned & hid Lupin away in a
"haunted" house, but Lupin was able to escape imprisonment w/the help
of his friends. Just as, later on, he escaped teaching at Hogwarts.
But he never really escaped the Order, bound by DD's past favors to
him. That was the emotional "hook" that snagged Lupin. And in the end
the pattern played out the same: the child was imprisoned by DD &
later killed by a dark wizard.
Albus Dumbledore: "I do enjoy knitting patterns." Eek! Creepy, creepy!
I didn't remember that quote about patterns, but it's from HBP. DD
visits Slughorn (w/Harry) to "prod" him into returning to Hogwarts. At
first Slughorn is resistant, but then DD goes to the bathroom, leaving
time for Slughorn & Harry to talk. And Slughorn reminisces about Lily,
& how Harry would make a fine member of the "Slug Club." When DD
returns, Slughorn asks him what took so long. DD responds "I was just
looking at Muggle magazines. I do enjoy knitting patterns." Slughorn
then tells DD he's decided to return to teach at Hogwarts. On re-read,
there's a clear double meaning there, a little joke that DD intended
for himself alone. DD has just manipulated & emotionally "hooked"
Slughorn into returning to Hogwarts by dangling Harry as bait, and he
is triumphing at his success. Why shouldn't he? He'd spun the same
strategy at least twice before.
In that same chapter, there's an unintentional similarity between DD &
Slughorn. After Harry meets Slughorn, the text says that Harry had "a
sudden vivid mental image of a great swollen spider, spinning a web
around it, twitching a thread here and there to bring its large and
juicy flies a little closer." Spiders also knit patterns that extend
far around them, catching all passersby in their wake. At the end of
the chapter, they leave Slughorn & apparate to the Weasleys - where DD
now appears to be covered in spiders. DD cries crocodile tears about
Sirius' cruel, sudden death, and Harry resolutely watches a spider
climbing DD's hat. Harry pledges that if he ever dies too, he'll try
to take Voldemort with him. DD praises this thought, patting his back
& saying that Sirius, James & Lily would approve. Of course, DD is
hiding from Harry that it's been his plan for Voldemort and Harry to
kill each other all along. DD finishes with: "I take my hat off to you
- or I would, if I were not afraid of showering you in spiders." It's
all going according to plan, the pattern has been spun, and the
threads of the spider's web have been twitched to bring all the juicy
flies a little closer for the main event.
*shivers*
OK, DD is officially my most favorite character.
lizzyben
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