[HPforGrownups] Re: Sirius and Snape parallels again

[Marion Ros]

No: HPFGUIDX 185017

lizzyben: 

>>>>True that. He was in worse shape in POA, but finally being *free* did
wonders for Sirius. Along with, as you say, having people he loves
around. So yeah, after that taste of freedom & purpose, it probably
was all the worse for Sirius to be imprisoned & isolated again. Until
he ultimately found another escape in death.<<<<

>>>>And that's really the end of the pattern, in all these cases.
DD's imprisonment of a damaged person, followed by a violent death at
the hands of a dark wizard. Ariana, James & Lily, Sirius, Snape, &
Harry all end the same way in that sense. I did a quick check, & found
that Ariana was actually first hidden away in Godric's Hollow, dying
shortly thereafter at the hands of Grindewald. How odd, then, that DD
chooses that same exact village to hide James & Lily, who also die
shortly thereafter at the hands of Voldemort. Since Bathilda Bagshot
was neighbor to both the DD & Potter family, I wonder if it might
actually have been the same exact house. Wouldn't surprise me if it
were. Freud would have a field day!<<<<



Marion:

I can't resist; I'll be Freud for a day :-)
Can't remember where I've read it, but somebody (Red Hen?) wrote an analyses of the fight in which Ariana had been killed. Turns out that Abe and Grindlewald were fighting eachother and suddenly Ariana turns up dead. Of course, this could mean that Grindles was hauling off deadly curses to his best friend's kid brother and one of them missed and hid the kid sister instead, but I've been thinking...
1) Abe loathes his brother and blames Albus for Ariana's death
2) There's not a lot Abe could do or say against his brother, since he was a kid back then as well.
3) Abe was underage, not going to Hogwarts... and still he was duelling Grindlewald at the tender age of, what, 15? Were they *duelling* or were they scuffling, bigger and older Gellert disadvantaged because he could hold his own against a fifteen-year-old with a wand, but not with fisticuffs?
4) We are told by Abe that Albus loathed being 'hold back' by his retarded sister, the 'freak', the 'family secret', the child hidden beneath the stairs.

I've seen too many episodes of Columbo and read too many Agatha Christie novels to believe in this kind of 'coincidence'. It looks like all the world as if Albus, seeing his precious goldenhaired, perfect, delicious boyfriend being accosted by his little brother and that freakish kid, his sister, the family shame, is screaming and waffling and waving her arms and throwing a wobbler, and it's all *her* fault that he can't follow up on his plans, *her* fault that he is tight to this *dump* instead of being with Gellert, beautiful Gellert, and ruling the world, and then, quite accidently-on-purpose, a curse is loosened, and she is dead.. The freak is no more.. Albus is free...

Except Gellert flees. No small wonder. A girl had been killed whilst he was fighting her brother. He was a foreign boy and the Ministry has a record of 'throw the suspect in Azkaban, ask questions later'. Was it Albus who decided that Gellert was not good for him, or was it the other way around. One of them killed Ariana, and based on Albus' tendency to recreate the trauma of his youth over and over again, I suspect that it was Albus.

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