Plan to move Harry WAS: Re: Caring about people

[sistermagpie]

No: HPFGUIDX 184557

> > Pippin:
> > "You will have to give Voldemort the correct time of Harry's 
departure
> > from his aunt and uncle's," said Dumbledore. "Not to do so will 
raise
> > suspicion, when Voldemort believes you so well informed."
> > -DH ch 33.
> > 
> > It's not a matter of increasing Snape's standing, according to 
DD, but
> > of the certainty that it will *decrease* if Voldemort discovers 
that
> > he was misinformed. <SNIP>
> > 
> > Alla:
> > 
> > Honestly I do not see much difference and do not buy the 
certainty of 
> > that as I wrote before.
> 
> Potioncat:
> The very first thing we see in DH is Yaxley and Snape bringing 
> information to LV about the plans for Potter. They are competing 
for 
> LV's favor. Snape, currently the top dog, is placed to LV's right 
while 
> Yaxly is given a spot toward the end of the table.
> 
> What do you think would have happened if Yaxley's information had 
been 
> more accurate than Snape's?....We would have had Headmaster Yaxley, 
or 
> Headmaster Carrow, and Snape, if he were lucky, would have been 
helping 
> Umbridge with the Muggleborn trials.

Magpie:
But that's so damned silly! Snape's just killed freakin' Dumbledore. 
Yaxley's just brought a little bit of information. Sure if Snape 
throws a fit and challenges the guy *then* Snape had better be right. 
I've no doubt that if Snape had screwed things up by giving them the 
wrong date when he wasn't the one bringing the information it would 
have hurt Snape. But if somebody else has brought information another 
DE could just let him take the fall. The scene plays like what it 
apparently is, Snape going through the motions of being a traitor. 
He's already the top DE so there's no reason at all for him to fight 
with anyone. (Plus the guy was still Voldemort's favorite even after 
GoF so it's hard to imagine this ruining it.)

And since Snape has just defected from the good side there's even 
less reason for Snape to be well-informed. In fact, is Snape ever 
again in this book supposed to know everything the Order is doing? 
Because the funny thing is that it's in DH where Snape actually does 
become a traitorous spy, passing information to Voldemort without the 
Order knowing. Otherwise, I can't remember, is he supposed to be 
plugged into the Order? Or is he just being the headmaster?

Alla:
I mean, they **will** show up most likely of course eventually, but
as Magpie said, seconds can make such tremendous difference IMO. If
they know for sure, they are all there already, I mean full
reinforcements and all that, just waiting to fight.

Magpie:
Agreeing with you agreeing with me, but yeah, I just can't see how 
there's no extra danger here. Not only are we talking time for the 
DEs to react (even if it's just seconds--and we've seen that the DEs 
aren't exactly the most efficient team) they're also risking the 
possible seconds it takes for the Order--especially the kids--to 
react. If you know somebody's waiting to chase you when you start you 
are going to fly differently than if you are flying knowing that any 
second people could find you and start chasing you.

This would be fine if the Order just knew that the DEs had been 
informed, but then we readers might have to know how.

-m