The Houses, Finally

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 184609

> Zara:
<SNIP>
 If I understand her argument, she is suggesting 
> Snape did not change in terms of his personality at all - what 
> changed was his loyalties, only. 

Alla:

I actually agree with that LOL, although I am not sure if this is 
what Pippin meant. I totally agree that Snape did not change in terms 
of his personality at all. 

 
> Zara:
> Could you explain what in the train scene suggested to you that 11 
> year old Sirius was motivated by moral courage? I really did not 
see 
> it that way. It seemed to me that he liked James, and disliked 
> Severus. 
> <SNIP>

Alla:

I think we are starting our annual Sirius v Severus contest tee hee. 
I mean, we obviously have different opinions about Sirius' 
motivations in the train scene, but actually regardless of his 
motivations, his action to me is definitely an example of moral 
courage.

Meaning that I disagree of course that the reason of his rejection of 
Slytherin is that he liked James and disliked Severus.  I guess I 
should say I disagree that it was the only reason. I am sure it 
played a part, but even if it was, to reject what his parents stood 
for, even if he does it solely for a friend ( and I do not buy for a 
second that he does, I believe that he thought about it and decided 
that he does not like Slytherin values, or at least some of them), to 
me it is an example of moral courage.

And when Snape's friend was expressing disaproval of Snape's values 
and what his other friends stood for, I have not noticed Snape 
rejecting it right away, till that particular friend died.

Zara:
> Regulus, it also seems to me, is shown to have acted out of a 
genuine 
> conviction (doubtless inspired by the education his parents 
provided) 
> rather than parental pressure. I doubt his parents made him keep a 
> scrapbook of Voldemort's exploits. But even Sirius seems to 
consider 
> that they (and his brother, though Sirius did not know it) would be 
> shocked by the lengths to which Voldemort was willing to go.

Alla:

Sure, this I agree with.

 
JMO,

Alla