DH reread CH 6-7

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 26 21:16:13 UTC 2009


No: HPFGUIDX 186333

> Pippin:
> As long as Dumbledore is alive, the sword is safest in his office. Harry hasn't got the means to protect it, as we saw. Dumbledore never meant to convey the sword itself to Harry by means of his will. As Scrimgeour says, it's not legally Dumbledore's and the Ministry would not allow Harry to have it, as Dumbledore surely would know.  The will was a backup plan for letting Harry know that he would need the sword without letting anyone else know why. But IMO Harry would have known what it was for already if Dumbledore's plan had worked properly.

Alla:

I am really confused about what you seem to be saying here Pippin. So, basically you are saying that Dumbledore does not own the sword, right? However, he deemed it quite fine to will it to Harry. Eh, I know that WW law is quite far from being clear but this goes way beyond being unclear and uneffective IMO. The object that does not belong to you, you cannot will, no?

You also seem to be saying that will is just a symbolic gesture? Just a warning to let Harry know that he will need it? However two objects that they will need as well, are also willed and not as warning?

I do not know, to me the fact that Dumbledore put it in his will is quite clear sign that sword indeed belongs to him. If he just wanted to let Harry know that he will need a sword, but he cannot get it yet, why not just write a simple letter with the instructions to deliver after his death?

And how Harry would have known what it is for?

I mean, I see how sword's ownership can be interpreted as murky, but to me there is little doubt that Dumbledore indeed considered himself at least as one of its true owners, IMO.


  
> > Alla:
> > 
> > Hm, but when did we see anybody in the WW reading fiction?
> 
> Pippin:
> Ron has a collection of comic books, most of which feature The Adventures of Marvin Miggs, the Mad Muggle. (CoS ch 3). 

Alla:

True thanks for reminding me. I however realized that I sort of found better support for Zara's claim about Hermione not reading fiction.

I do not think she likes fiction, because she dropped divination if that makes sense. She considers it fictional, phony branch of magic, something that does not bring true results, right? Maybe she views other fictional stories with the same contempt? Although she says nothing about muggle fairy tales when she mentions them.






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