[HPforGrownups] Ron WAS: Re: DH reread CH 4-5

k12listmomma k12listmomma at comcast.net
Mon Apr 27 22:52:12 UTC 2009


No: HPFGUIDX 186363

Miles:
I had the same unpleasant feeling about that scene in the epilogue. It
reminded me why I always had a bad feeling about "shipping" Ron and
Hermione. I'm quite sure that Rowling planned them coming together from the
beginning, but since I do not like couples of that kind in real life (you
know, one bossy partner, always planning for both, setting rules, making
decisions, the other partner indulgent, only rarely taking a stand, but
usually giving in), I do not like Hermione and Ron as a pair. By the way, am
I the only one that sees a reflection of Molly and Arthur? And would it be
unfair to think about how JKR's husband might be?

Magpie:
Re: Ron and Hermione, I have the same view about them. I do think they were 
always obviously made to come together but to be honest, every time I 
imagine them as adults I picture them divorced. I know that's not canon, but 
it's just what I always see in my head.

Shelley:
I have no problem with marriages where two people are evenly matched. In my 
own marriage, we are two stubborn first-borns, and in that, we fight a lot 
at times, but each of us knows who we are and can stand up for ourselves. We 
have, over the years, come to a place where we are each allowed to have our 
strengths and we make room for the other. It makes me extremely 
uncomfortable to see one weak partner and one strong partner- I see the 
strong potential for abuse in those cases. Yes, honestly, I only ever saw 
Hermione and Ron as divorced- I don't know how Hermione, a strong, confident 
woman, would ever put up with a bungling and disappointing Ron. I don't know 
how Ron would be able to put up with, even in joking, the idea that "she 
doesn't have confidence in me". That's a match that doesn't work, IMHO.

I guess I never saw Molly and Arthur as that kind of reflection- Molly is 
strong, but I don't ever hear Arthur doubting his wife's confidence in him, 
or saying that Molly doesn't trust him. I don't ever see Molly manipulating 
or bullying Arthur in any way, the way that I imagined that a Hermione-Ron 
pairing would end up. Not that Hermione would ever intend to be superior, 
but that her confidence would keep coming in contact with Ron's 
insecurities. Arthur does have his hobbies and his job, even if Molly 
doesn't always approve of his choices, she doesn't actively tell him "no", 
he can't do something. Arthur doesn't have those insecurities that keep him 
from succeeding- he is successful and liked among his peers, and Molly does 
trust him to as a member of the Order and thinks that he is very important. 
We don't hear those kinds of affirmations out of Hermione's mouth.

Frankly, I didn't think of Rowling's current husband, but her first one. 
They ended up divorced, and so part of me wondered subconscientiously which 
character represented her first husband's faults.

Shelley 





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