Snape's Psychology: WAS: More thoughts on the Elder Wand subplot - Owner?
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Mon Aug 10 16:03:58 UTC 2009
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Jen responded:
> > Another minor point about Voldemort: I doubt he felt relief Snape
> > asked for so little. That isn't part of his psychological make-
> > up. If a follower dares ask for something, he or she should be
> > grateful to be alive after the asking.
Carol again:
> That idea that he would reward a particular DE or DEs above all
> others, repeated by Snape and Narcissa in "Spinner's End" and Barty
> Jr. in GoF, appears to come from Voldemort himself.
<snip>
> It certainly appears that Snape was allowed to choose his own
> reward after "murdering" Dumbledore--becoming headmaster of
> Hogwarts.
SSSusan:
I'm with Jen on this one, re: doubting Voldy's psychological makeup would support his feeling relief about what a follower asked for. There may have been moments of relief in his life as Lord Voldemort, but I suspect they'd have to do with regaining physical form, escaping encounters with DD, or etc., not with anything having to do with his followers, whom I suspect he felt he had *absolute* control over. Yes, he sometimes rewarded, but I think everyone knew it was all on *his* terms only, not something any of the DEs might have truly expected or been stunned not to have received if denied him/her.
Quick question. What canon do we have that Snape *requested* becoming Hogwarts headmaster? I must be missing something.
Carol:
> So I suspect--and admittedly I'm only guessing--that he was asked,
> perhaps belatedly, to name his own reward for revealing the
> Prophecy. Maybe he deferred for a time, but came back later and
> asked for Lily (ostensibly as a prize; really, to save her life)
> when he found that LV interpreted the Prophecy to mean that Harry
> Potter was "the one with the power." It makes more sense to me that
> Snape would have asked it as a reward than as a favor. Or perhaps,
> having delivered the Prophecy brought him into the "inner circle"
> where he was in a position to belatedly request the favor/reward at
> some point when LV was in what passed for a generous mood.
SSSusan:
While what you suggest is certainly one possibility, I still have no trouble imagining just the asking of a favor. We saw a *very* distraught Snape appealing to DD, and I can also easily imagine him requesting a flat-out favor of Voldy -- in desperation, rather than awaiting a time when Voldy happened to be in a relatively good mood and Snape thought he'd try cashing in on a stockpiled reward offer.
Carol:
> Obviously, Snape didn't trust him to keep his word or he wouldn't
> have gone to Dumbledore, but he must have known that he could make
> the request in the first place without being killed for doing so.
SSSusan:
I'm not totally sure of this. Perhaps he knew no such thing. Perhaps he just felt he simply *had* to try, regardless of what consequence might come.
Siriusly Snapey Susan
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