To kill or not to kill and resolutions of the storyline/ Slytherins
sistermagpie
sistermagpie at earthlink.net
Mon Feb 2 16:50:12 UTC 2009
No: HPFGUIDX 185613
Pippin:
> The Slytherins are grouped together with Slughorn here and expected to
> act in concert with him. Slytherin House as a whole will decide on its
> loyalties. Which it does, when Slughorn returns. The Slytherins who
> stood to honor Harry in GoF were nameless and faceless. Harry never
> bothered to find out who they were, so how would he, or the narrator,
> identify them now?
Magpie:
But Slughorn has already been singled out as one of the different
Slytherins--one that is still associated with its Pureblood ideology,
but who has loved a Gryffindor and so has a main loyalty to her (though
he always needs a little push to stick his neck out). (He's not
expected to act in concert with them, necessarily.) I don't see how the
description of some Slytherins not specifically showing they're against
Harry in GoF matters much in the end. Certainly not to the extent that
I'm shocked they didn't return to fight for him in DH. I'm not
surprised he didn't specifically find out who they were. There is no
story where they actually stood against Voldemort or trusted
Dumbledore. They didn't necessarily join Voldemort, but I've no reason
to think they did much of note otherwise.
You make a distinction elsewhere between believing in an ideology and
being killers--but I don't see where everyone has ignored that
distinction. Slytherin has not been presented as a House full of
killers. There's other negative qualities they have too. Maybe it's a
shame that Harry never reached out to them or tried to make them
allies. But it's not surprising he didn't. And they didn't reach out to
him either, or do much else to disassociate themselves from their bad
reputation. In the end they didn't seem needed for victory. The ones
who acted for the other side did so because they loved somebody. It's a
consistent saving grace, imo.
-m
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