Slytherin's Reputation was Re: CHAPDISC: DH, EPILOGUE

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 185631

> Magpie:
> Actually, I don't think anyone has said they didn't count. I, for 
> instance, just point out that Slytherin's character is consistent. If 
> they love someone they can be moved to brave acts, including brave 
> acts against Voldemort. Nobody's denying their memorials in Vad 
> Yashem, neither readers nor characters. I still don't think that 
> implies any sort of bias on the part of readers if they don't see 
> this alleged intention of JKR's to show us how biased we and the 
> heroes are about anybody. Obviously they count. Slytherin is still 
> around at the end of the series. Harry references Snape as a 
> Slytherin who was brave. They all also get connected to the blood 
> prejudice that's presented as the defining evil of the series in ways 
> other Houses aren't. It seems like one has to ignore a lot to think 
> of Slytherin as just another equal House that's being judged unfairly 
> by anybody.
>

Alla:

Oh, no, I would think that there is plenty of ugliness in Slytherin 
house, but my question is what are they count for to you?

And do they count as representatives of Slytherin house? Because I 
cannot speak for Pippin of course, but that is how I read this part of 
her post. Because I totally agree that for some reason to many readers 
(as I read the posts of course) it seems to me that these guys get 
discounted as part of the group.

We don't judge Gryffs as group, right? We judge them based on who we 
see from this group. We judge them on Harry, Ron, Hermione, but we also 
judge Gryffs based on Peter Pettigrew.

I most certainly judge Slytherins based on Draco and Pansy, but at 
least on thinking level, I judge them based on others too, you know?

I mean, I would never say that they do not subscribe to the ugly 
ideology and even those brave ones at least at some point in their 
lifes did, but they did not anymore, right?

So why their redemption does not count as a redemption of the group 
they belong to?

Alla