Marietta, was Slytherin's Reputation
jkoney65
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Fri Feb 6 01:13:50 UTC 2009
No: HPFGUIDX 185669
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "littleleahstill"
<leahstill at ...> wrote:
>
>Leah:
>
> You know, it's not exactly unheard of for a teacher to single out
one
> student to answer questions. It does happen in classrooms from
time to
> time. Is Snape just acting like a 'normal' teacher here? No, I
don't
> think that he is. Does he have reasons for singling out Harry? Yes:
>
> 1. It's his job to protect Harry - it would help to know what Harry
is
> like.
>
> 2. The whole James/Lily thing and more specifically: Is Harry
arrogant
> like his father? Is he a potions whizz like his mother?
>
> 3. Is Harry a potential Dark Lord?
jkoney:
It's not unheard of to quiz a student in class. Except that these
students haven't had any study of this subject nor were they assigned
any reading before the first class.
Snape already knows that Harry wasn't raised in a wizarding home. Not
only does the entire WW know that, but Snape is partially responsible
for that happening. So Harry having any knowledge of potions is a
rather slim idea.
I'm not sure how Harry knowing potions answers will determine how
Snape will protect him. Nor how it will help determine if he is a
dark lord.
A smarter way would have been to observe Harry and see how he
interacts with others and how he responds to being around a bunch of
wizards.
Leah:
> And because we see this all from Harry's perspective, we are
> deliberately given the impression that Snape is setting out to
> humiliate Harry, but really, wny would Snape think Harry couldn't
> answer the questions? He's had his potions textbooks for a
month,and
> we know that in fact he has read them; we learn that when he's at
the
> Dursleys' and are reminded of it again while Snape is questioning
him.
> He just hasn't taken them in. The information required to answer
has to
> be in the textbooks because Hermione, a muggleborn, manages to know
all
> the answers. Snape also knew Harry's parents at school and very
> probably shared classes with them. We know from McGonagall that
James
> was bright and did well at school, and we have Slughorn's opinion
of
> Lily's potions prowess, so it is not unlikely that Harry is going
to be
> a child who is interested and does well academically.
>
jkoney:
It's not the narrator that makes us think that Snape is out to
embarrass Harry it's Snapes actions.
He starts off by singling Harry out as a celebrity and doesn't make
comments about any other student. He asks Harry a question and Harry
doesn't know the answer. Instead of calling on someone else he sticks
with questioning Harry. When the other students snicker at Harry he
doesn't do what most other teachers would do and make one of those
people answer, he sticks with Harry and insults him by saying that
celebrity isn't everything.
Leah:
> Unfortunately, Harry doesn't know the answers and makes matters
worse
> by cheeking Snape. We know this is how Harry copes with the
Dursleys,
> but Snape doesn't. It's just cheek and raises the James factor in
> Snape's eyes. From then on, it's downhill all the way.
>
jkoney:
Harry responds to this bully like every other bully he has run
across, with humor. And Harry didn't insult Snape, he deflected the
issue to someone who knew the answer. Trying to take the spotlight
off of himself.
Leah:
> It would be foolish to deny that Snape is never petty or vindictive
or
> overdoes the sarcasm. But equally his behaviour can be
exaggerated.
> The trio and Neville are not the only Gryffindor students in
Snape's
> potions class but we don't see him reacting badly with any of the
> others.
jkoney:
Well it could be that he has his targets already picked out.
Leah:
And yes, Snape is an adult, but he is,
> like Sirius, a damaged and emotionally retarded adult, who gets
> absolutely no teaching support from his headmaster.
jkoney:
As for the scene with the headmaster, I thought Dumbledore handled it
quite well. DD responds that he has gotten good reports from other
teachers. He could have specifically pointed out to Snape that the
problems were caused by Snape since no one else is reporting the same
thing as him. Instead he hoped that Snape would realize on his own.
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