First lesson WAS: Re: Marietta, was Slytherin's Reputation
dumbledore11214
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Fri Feb 6 17:15:52 UTC 2009
No: HPFGUIDX 185680
> > Magpie:
> > He didn't start off with
> > any bias against Snape or not.
>
> Zara:
> Based on their brief interaction in the Great Hall and Harry's
dream
> the night before class, I consider this debatable.
Alla:
And after this interaction and his dream Harry comes to Potion class
thinking about how horrible the professor will be, how much he will
suffer... I do not think so. Quite the contrary, narrator says that
Snape just as McGonagall has a gift to keep class quiet (paraphrase).
Yes, I know Harry is not narrator, but narrator describes how Harry
feels and it seems to me that Harry decided to disregard the pain he
felt (he thought) from Snape and just give him a chance. Not till
Snape starts bullying him and takes a point off for not helping
Neville, Harry starts thinking bad thoughts about greasy git.
So, yes I agree with Magpie completely.
Zara:
That Harry was
not, to Snape, just any new student in his class, I would agree.
Alla:
Harry looked exactly as Snape's rival in love, who won. Harry was
someone whom Snape helped to become an orphan. Yes, I'd agree that
Harry was to Snape not just any new student.
Zara:
That
Snape deliberately and with malicious forethought planned out a
scheme to make Harry miserable from Day One, I'd say we lack the
evidence to conclude. < BIG SNIP>
Alla:
You think Snape started spouting the nonsense about Harry's enjoying
his celebrity status by accident then?
Trekkie:
<SNIP>
> Snape's a fullblood bigot. He's a half-blood wizard but a full blood
> bigot, just like Voldie. He WANTS to be something he's not. <SNIP>
Zara:
This, of course, is why his private name for himself, with which he
adorned what was probably his most prized possession, was "The *Half-
Blood* Prince". Wait, no, that makes no sense to me at all. <SNIP>
Alla:
I do not see how the fact that Snape gave himself this nickname
proves that he was not a pureblood bigot. I can easily imagine
somebody who believes that purebloods are superior and must rule and
somebody who as you pointed out may want to be one (I know you did
not say that he thought they were superior, just that he may have
wanted to be one), I can easily imagine that someone be so full of
self loathing and anger that he would call himself Half blood prince.
He acknowledges to himself that he never is anything else but half
blood, but at least in his dreams he will call himself a royalty.
Of course it is a speculation, but really, the fact that he called
himself that to me does not disprove what Trekkie wrote at all. AND
the fact that nobody knew Snape's nickname tells me that he was not
exactly proud of who he was and sort of supports my speculation.
JMO,
Alla
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