First lesson WAS: Re: Marietta, was Slytherin's Reputation

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> Montavilla47:
> 
> I'm going to pretty much agree with Magpie.  Harry was no
> more biased against Snape than the average firstie would be.
> I mean, the guy dresses in black, wears his hair in that weird
> do, and cultivates an air of meanness and mystery.  No kid is
> going to walk into his class without a bit of dread.

Alla:

Well, yes :-)

Montavilla: 
> And, of course, Snape had every reason to feel strongly 
> about Harry.  This kid was Snape's reason for not killing 
> himself ten years earlier.  It's of enormous importance 
> to him that Harry in some way resemble Lily--which
> we know is only in the eyes.

Alla:

Yes, he has a right to feel anything he wants about anybody including 
Harry, I agree. As to whether he has a right to show it to Harry, my 
opinion - not so much.

Montavilla: 
> He could have tried to figure Harry out by being nice
> to him--but that's not really Snape's way, is it?  Even
> when he approached Lily on the playground, he went 
> about it all wrong.
> <SNIP>

Alla:

Well, yes sure he could have tried being nice. But believe me I am 
not requiring him to be nice. I mean that would have been great, but 
I know what character we are discussing, I know that he cannot be 
kind to the kid whom he already wronged so much in my view. I am 
talking about being neutral, I am talking about doing *business as 
usual* class and no, I do not believe for one second that this class 
was business as usual for Snape. I do not know if he sit down in his 
dungeons and worked a plan, or Harry's looks set him off (I would 
imagine second, but of course I do not know), but I think he did all 
of that for Harry only, IMO of course.

And if he truly genuinely worried that Harry could be next Dark Lord, 
again, why not do that extraordinary thing and just **watch** him 
without antagonizing him? See how he interacts with kids, see how 
much magic he knows during **several** lessons, and then, THEN make 
your conclusions.


> > Alla:
> > You think Snape started spouting the nonsense about Harry's 
enjoying 
> > his celebrity status by accident then?
> 
> Montavilla47:
> Actually, this is the part that I find most interesting about
> the exchange between Harry and Snape.  We've seen the 
> whole Wizarding world making idiots of themselves every
> time Harry walks into the room--because Harry *is* 
> a celebrity.  <SNIP> I doubt Snape was unaware of all this hoopla.  
I mean,
> how could he be?<SNIP>

Alla:

I am not sure that Snape being aware of all that also means that he 
has a right to make the conclusion that Harry likes it. He also aware 
that Harry lived in the Muggle world, no? So, to me it would make 
sense to actually see first if Harry is enjoying being a celebrity 
before judging him.


Montavilla: 
> Neither James nor Lily would be indifferent to that 
> type of adulation.  James would have reveled in it, and
> it might have turned even Lily's head. <SNIP>

Alla:

I do not know if we have any evidence that Lily would have liked it 
one way or another.

JMO,

Alla