John Granger "Looking for God in Harry Potter"/ Random thoughts about CH 1-3
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Sat Feb 21 04:53:54 UTC 2009
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http://www.amazon.com/Looking-Harry-Potter-John-Granger/dp/1414300913
I have a guess that more people may have read this book than the
others. I of course heard about John Granger before, read some
excerpts, but have never read this book or any of the others he wrote
about Harry. I have had this book for some time though, so I
figured, may as well, and if it will be too over the head for me,
well, I can always stop.
Here is his website for those who is interested:
http://hogwartsprofessor.com/
I mean, to me the books had never been the allegory of the Bible, but
always had strong Christian influence to it and I mean, obviously the
ending only strengthened it for me.
So, I started the book, in the first two chapters he argues how
Christians should not be afraid of the magic in the books and how it
is different from occult magic. I mean I understand his intentions,
but the thought of the audience who needs to be convinced that the
fictional magic, is well, not a real magic, makes me want to slap
this audience real hard. Again, nothing against the author, really, I
understand to whom he is talking in those introductory chapters.
Now, chapter 3 really made me wonder, because he is talking about
Hero journey as applicable to Harry Potter books. Now, I must say
that any possible misinterpretation of his words is completely my
fault, so forgive me in advance; I cannot put in my opinion in every
sentence here. He is basically saying that it is a classic hero
journey with the Christ like twist. Here is how he maps the elements
of the journey:
Start, escape, mystery, crisis, descent, combat, Christ symbols,
return, revelation and finish.
So, he is basically saying that the difference from Classical journey
is that heroes of the past did not do the biggest battles of the
journey in the underground, but outside.
And Harry always does do it in the underground (Graveyard is
literally not one, but it is a place of the dead, so I agree that it
can count as one) and he sort of dies and come back with the help of
Christ symbols.
I mean, I agree that Harry literally or figuratively almost dies, but
didn't the battles often occur in the underground for other heroes as
well?
Hm, I was doing a quick search to find the elements of the classic
journey and could not, so if anybody has them, please feel free to
post.
Anyways, Granger lists as Christ symbols in order : Philosopher's
stone, Phoenix, Stag, Phoenix song, Phoenix swallowing death curse.
This is all lovely, and sure I can see how Christ symbols **help**
Harry, but when Granger starts to argue this. "And in case you think
this is just a "great comeback" rather than a resurrection
reference, please note that Harry never saves himself but is always
saved by a symbol of Christ or by love" p.22 of "Looking for God in
Harry Potter". And I am thinking that this is a fine example of
stretching the point to the extreme to fit your argument. Just stop
after saying that those elements **help** Harry, because it is
extremely bizarre to me to read that Stag saves Harry in PoA, and not
Harry himself who saw himself **casting said Stag** and was finally
able to do it. And Harry's love for Sirius that saved him from
possession in OOP um, that IS Harry himself, is it not?
I am intrigued by this book for sure, I do think it talks about the
books more than many other HP books I read, but we shall see if I
like it when I am done.
I will be back to talk about other chapters.
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