Disarming spell WAS: Re: Wandlore and more

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No: HPFGUIDX 185403

Magpie:
> What's non-warrior like about disarming your opponent? Warriors
> aren't about magical power, they'd just be about defeating the 
person
> and I'd think expelliarimus would be used all the time. And Lupin
> himself is never much connected to encouraging magical power that I
> remember. He just kind of randomly says it in this one scene where
> yeah, he does get put in this humiliating role of being lectured by
> Harry.
Alla:
I would say that what's non-warrior like in this situation is what 
JKR presents as different about Harry – that he would rather stun 
then kill, that he is rather different kind of warrior, if you may. 
Remember Aaang? You know that I love Avatar, but I confess to having 
very little sympathy to his agonizing at the end as to how he can 
destroy the Lord there without killing him. However, I see what he 
did as very similar and also as either non-warrior like or very 
different kind of warrior in a way. However, however, one thing I 
agree with you is that having Lupin saying that felt strange to me 
to. I was like, since when Remus was portrayed as having such urge to 
kill your opponents, or at least hurt them more than Harry.
Magpie:
> Of course, Harry's decision to torture Amycus in the end kind of
> undermines the idea that Harry's just by nature or instinct more
> peaceful. So he apparently wasn't beyond Lupin's advice there.
Alla:
To me that does not undermine anything; to me it shows that Harry is 
susceptible to his emotions, to anger.  I guess I did not see him 
preferring Expeliarmus as meaning that he is by nature more peaceful 
in the first place, just that he prefers not to take a life if he 
can. Of course he is not like Aang, by all means not. Do I see Aaang 
as exploding when he hears and observes his friends being tortured 
all year, do I see him taking it out on bad guy? No I do not, but it 
is part of the reason why I like Harry so much more. 


Jen: I was referring more to what JKR was promoting in that instance,
not whether it was consistent throughout DH or even the series. I
don't see that moment as general information about spells in the WW.
It was about Harry's choice. JKR is hanging her story on the idea that
Harry is different so in that instance she has Lupin present that idea
that most people would stun or kill, not disarm. <SNIP>

Alla:

Agreed, I just wished she had somebody like Moody present this idea 
instead. Come to think of it, we do not know, maybe Remus was such a 
strong fighter that he killed often and maybe because as you say in 
the part I snipped he is a survivor of the first war, maybe it makes 
sense.
And I am in agreement as well that disarming is constantly presented 
as passive spell.

JMO,

Alla